There seems to be a misconception: I'm not going WHM/BRD, I'm going BRD/WHM when I hit lv 30, and as matters stand (on account of the advice given here) WHM/THF from 18-30.
I think that BRD/WHM will have more to offer a party than WHM/BRD, since bards are (or at least seem) a lot more rare.
Agreed. I never see many bards.Originally Posted by Citizen Bleys
Of course I play a white mage because they seem to be in high demand for parties and I don't see much point of playing an online game if I'm not going to party and chat, so playing a warrior or black mage like everyone else doesn't help me get into parties.
That said I think that a combination of a white mage and bard would be very unique and highly sought after.
Well, most bards have whm subbed, but I still think it would be a fun class to play.
Well Garland i will say Valkurm Dunes is evil...once you get above 30, it gets way better. But the BLM/WHM should backup heal when NEEDED to...they shouldnt exclusively do that unless theres a pretty good reason to.
Roogle about the WHM/BLM, theres not going to be a BLM there for you all the time, and we need a substitiute, so another Sleep or Escape really doesnt hurt the party. Conserve MP is also pretty nice, i casted Haste(40MP) with using only 10MP once, and god that was SWEET. And at lvl 50, WHMs and BLMs opt for the DarkStaff(800K on my server), which gives +10 MP per heal tick, so that will help more.
WHM/THF isnt useful at all...just sub BLM, lvl it to 15 and dump it if you dont pursue it anymore, and just recycle old gear for it.
/WHM on bard is that because status heals always heal no matter what, and their MP isnt that important, so they can Curaga easy. ^^ sweet BRDs. WHM/BRD is ok if you got no MP regen person above 50.
The demands for parties are like this AFTER lvl 41.
RDM>BRD>BLM>PLD>WHM
Then at 55
BRD>RDM>BLM>PLD>WHM
As you can see WHM loses a bit of steam after lvl 30 and starts to get a bit less after 40. But they still have spells like RaiseII and teleports and status goodies that no one can replace as of yet. Also WAR and PLD and NIN get more invites, because many players lvl WAR to 30(or 37 max) and then switch to another melee job, hence tanks are rare to find and they get easy parties later. But like the WHM, tanks can fill only one spot in the party.
Yeah, I don't really know what parties are like without Black Mages because I'm a Black Mage.
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Strange to see PLD so low...I leap at the chance to play in a party with a PLD tank. They're awesome at keeping hate, and have both high def and cure magic.
You will when you lvl your subYeah, I don't really know what parties are like without Black Mages because I'm a Black Mage.I was so spoiled as a WHM that when i lvled BLM for subbing, i had a hard time finding a healer and got bit by WHM shortage in Shakrami Maze XD
PLD is actually not that low..there are only 3 other tank jobs, NIN and WAR, and NIN is situational because its dependant on the mob if it does Double Attack on your Utsesumi. Compared to MNK, THF, DRK, SAM, DRG, and occasionally WAR...the PLD always comes out first if you need a tank because as said, mainly when you go higher lvl...theres a shortage of tanks, and most PLDs, NINs, and WARs are already in parties, and most likely as tanks. So while it may seem like its low, its really not low at all. Its pretty damn high.Strange to see PLD so low...I leap at the chance to play in a party with a PLD tank. They're awesome at keeping hate, and have both high def and cure magic.
Cure=Best hate keeper with Flash. PLDs are desired for this fact..but keep in mind what your fighting, if its something like beetles NINs are better because Blink nulls all so long as the monster doesnt hit twice per turn...PLDs are great over all as tanks, and can hold just about anything, WARs are versitle, dmg dealing or tanking, never as great as their NIN and PLD counterparts...but can hold their own.
O BTW...for those of you that think WHMs suck later...when you lose like 2K exp from a death...it doesnt seem so sucky to have WHMs have RaiseII on your now does it?
Since we're getting into more than just the black mage and subjobs, I might throw in a question of my own.
I'm playing a red mage at the current time, and I know I will sub black mage when the time comes. However, my dilemma comes into play when I seek and advanced job. I know I want to be a summoner, and though I have run into very few of them, I intend to play as a SMN/RDM. I know it has its disadvantages, but I would like to have both a bit of white and black magic. It’ll definitely become more useful at higher levels, but I think it could be difficult at first. I’ve run into one SMN/RDM, and he said it was working wonderful for him, and he was at level 13.
What I’m wondering about is exactly how effective it will be, especially at higher levels. I don’t want to be stuck as a secondary healer as a SMN/WHM at early levels. I’m also considering SMN/BLM if the first choice doesn’t work out very well.
SMN/RDM better than SMN/BLM but from a lvl 13 person...dont just go in and say its good, because ANY sub works the first 20 lvls, drop off the next ten to 30, then suck horribly. I would say /RDM would work for a bit(even if you get CureII like 6 lvls later -.-), but in the end your Enfeeble and Elemental skills are going to be halved if its capped, and therefore going to do crap dmg, not to mention its lower than what /BLM has(and no that wont work as well either.). /WHM helps alot more with more MP, and better spells like status cures and Curaga in bad situations. WHM is a mage sub's choice if your not already WHM.
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