how do i get into deep dungeon

[the_elf]

If you're using the spoiler page on the mainsite as the guide, no wonder you haven't gotten it yet -- it neglects to say you have to be in Chapter 4 and must have cleared St. Murond Temple (but haven't gone to the next destination). Only then will it open, after you visit Warjilis.

Um, there was something you missed. Here, let me help you out:

I can't get Deep Dungeon to come up. I know that I remember seeing it before (in another old, lost save). I'm at the end of Chapter 4 (finished Murond Holy Place), I've managed to get Cloud, and I'm steering clear of Orbonne. I can't manage to trigger the bar scene in Warjilis. I've checked Rumors everywhere, and am in the process of trying to clear every Proposition on the map.

Is there another "trigger" outside of Goug Machine City and Warjilis that I could be missing?