Tips on beating Emeral Weapon

[Raistlin]

Plenty of people? How many are you people who have beaten Ruby without materia?

Well, not plenty. But a group of us did it at FFWA years ago. Maybe three, four people total. There were a bunch of others who said they were going to try it, but I don't remember if they did it or not.

...Hmmm... I got it! You used Yuffie! Rigth? She can do 9999 dammage to ruby with her best weapon.

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No, I used my standard party(Cloud, Tifa, Cid). I wanted to have limits that hit a lot...
I don't think I ever thought to use Yuffie...

Oh, and I hate you. LOATHE

Wait...*thinks* Did I use Yuffie in the end? *ponders* I know I started with Cloud, Tifa, and Cid...

yes but beating him without materia requires GOOD STATS or CHEAP ASS LUCKY 7.

It takes a helluva lot less work to get to level 99 than it does to get KotR. And I don't use Lucky 7s(you call Lucky 7s cheap, yet not KotR + Mime?)

maybe u think everyone is as arrogant as you but news flash, i,m completly the oppisite.

Ooh, buuuurnnned.

X-potions are easy to get and just as powerfull as fullcure... Hero drinks boosts your stats and there's an item called speed drink that works excactly like haste. It may be hard... but not as hard as I first thougth.

Organizing your inventory, having a ton of items, having all of the megalixirs in the game and using them strategically are the biggest necessities if you want to tackle Ruby without materia.

[aeris2001x2]

"It takes a helluva lot less work to get to level 99 than it does to get KotR. And I don't use Lucky 7s(you call Lucky 7s cheap, yet not KotR + Mime?)"

i was refering to morphing sources. even at lv 99 the stats wont be good enough 2 beat the weapons without materia(i think )

and KOR+MIME is proper ultimate power, while lucky 7 i consider a cheap glitch(though i dont think the w-item thing is cheap cause i only use it for magic pot training)

out of interest,would u consider having so much counter materia that the weapons die in a few rounds cheap?

[Raistlin]

"It takes a helluva lot less work to get to level 99 than it does to get KotR. And I don't use Lucky 7s(you call Lucky 7s cheap, yet not KotR + Mime?)"

i was refering to morphing sources. even at lv 99 the stats wont be good enough 2 beat the weapons without materia(i think )

and KOR+MIME is proper ultimate power, while lucky 7 i consider a cheap glitch(though i dont think the w-item thing is cheap cause i only use it for magic pot training)

out of interest,would u consider having so much counter materia that the weapons die in a few rounds cheap?

1. I don't morph for sources. Ew.
2. Lucky 7's is no more a glitch than Mime. W-Item, however, IS a glitch, and therefor IS cheating.
3. Cheap? Yeah, somewhat. Cheating? No.

[aeris2001x2]

so your stats were no where near max when u won without materia? sounds impossible

[Raistlin]

so your stats were no where near max when u won without materia? sounds impossible

So does everything before it is accomplished.

[aeris2001x2]

how please partake 2 me at sum point here the requirements for your feat

[Ultima Shadow]

so your stats were no where near max when u won without materia? sounds impossible

I don't think it's impossible without maxed stats... hero drinks can be very usefull, with sadness on the character, you'll take less dammage and Yuffie will do 9999 no matter what. Ofcourse the battle against Ruby will still take ages. You can't take it down in 101 rounds since you must take care of claws and heal yourself and all that stuff... I guess it will take at least something like 300 rounds.

[aeris2001x2]

but surely u would have 2 use the w-item trick for enough hero drinks?

well thing is i,ll never know till i replay ffVII cause i,ve already killed them.

[Ultima Shadow]

but surely u would have 2 use the w-item trick for enough hero drinks?

You can get them from the chocobo race to... if you have the patience. Same for megaelexirs... just be patient and kill enough master tonberries.

well thing is i,ll never know till i replay ffVII cause i,ve already killed them.

That's why I always keep a save file before I kill the super bosses in a FF... however... the only save file I have where I haven't beaten Emerald is on my No materia, first equipment, solo character play... and I haven't got any good stuff at all on that save file.

[aeris2001x2]

i do have safes before them actually thinking about it, but they r like already ready with my solo cloud KOR method. ok maybe i should try without...

actually i,ve decided i wont. i believe there is nothing wrong with using KOR .

hmm i wonder if Raistlin would consider ffVIII Zell's (SPOILER)Armageddon Fist a cheap way to beat ultima and omega weapon

[Ultima Shadow]

i do have safes before them actually thinking about it, but they r like already ready with my solo cloud KOR method. ok maybe i should try without...

actually i,ve decided i wont. i believe there is nothing wrong with using KOR .

hmm i wonder if Raistlin would consider ffVIII Zell's (SPOILER)Armageddon Fist a cheap way to beat ultima and omega weapon

KotR is not cheap. However... I think KotR-HP absorb + W-summon + whole party mime is cheap.

I don't know if Armagedon fist could be considered cheap or not but I prefere to not use it.

[Raistlin]

I don't consider anything about FF8, except that it sucks.

[aeris2001x2]

yes ultima, then i,m not cheap since i only have solo cloud and one mime materia at the time

how did i guess u,Raistlin, would be an ffVIII hater