A sterling example of the inherent ugliness of human nature.
A sterling example of the inherent ugliness of human nature.
I wonder what the head count is now.
Psst! I hear some people actually LIVE there! Imagine that... >_>This madness will never end. We'll be telling our grandchildren that even back when we were young, the Middle East was not a place one wants to visit.
:P
When fighting monsters, be wary not to become one yourself... when gazing into the abyss, bear in mind that the abyss also gazes into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
The rightful owner of this Ciddie can kiss my arse! :P
Actulally, I spent the best days of my life in middle-east. And I've never met that friendly people anywhere, than I met in Dubai, United Arabic Emirates.the Middle East was not a place one wants to visit.Seriously, muslims, arabs; they have been the friendliest people ever to me.
Alright, this was a bit off-topic, but I recommend that place.
('-'*)/ - "sup"
Perhaps I should clarify:
Iraq and the West Bank are places one does not usually want to visit. I overgeneralized. My apologies.
Take care all.
Shame on everyone is right. Two wrongs do not make a right. Killing someone to retaliate is just as bad. I'm very sad about this.
I dunno weather to agree more with Dr. Unne or Arche. Humilition and Death are both horrible. The Iraqi's being forced to do things such as oral sex to each other is sick. Murder is sick too. I'm just going to say that both are horrible and shouldn't have been done in the first place.
Granted, this isn't directly tied to this topic, but I think I should add it in:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...use_general_dc
What will we do if this really does boil down into a holy war? These sort of terrible acts by both sides will only get worse, I'd warrant.
Is it time for the USA to cut their losses?
Should we remain?
Neither choice seems possible now. The USA is damned if you do, damned if you don't. However, if the above story turns out to be a major event, the anti-American, anti-Christian sentiment will reach a new high probably, and I can only believe, it will lead to more death.
Take care all.
The Iraqi's being forced to do things such as oral sex to each other is sick. Murder is sick too. I'm just going to say that both are horrible and shouldn't have been done in the first place. --Rye
Different degrees of "sick", but both sick, I agree.
Is it time for the USA to cut their losses? --The Captain
I think we should do the best we can in Iraq, and once they're set up to where they can survive on their own, i.e. once their government is set up and they're capable of maintaining a sovereign state, we should cut our losses.
I agree with Unne that justing picking up Americans and cutting there head off is worse than what happend in the prison. Why would it be one thing if he was a soldier? Were'nt those prisoners also soldiers? And I also agree we shoudl stay there until the government is set up. If we leave now then the country will go back to how it was before and more civillians over there will die.
I hate saying that other opinions are wrong, so I'll just say this: it's a real damn shame when people exploit tragedies to make political statements. Why can't we just be people, instead of left-wing or right-wing? Hell, no matter who's elected this November, we're going to be in Iraq for a long time. Let's put the controversy of the war behind us, and accept it as a fact. We can't change the past by saying that we should have done something different. Let's look at the events happening now without a party filter. Christ, are we so petty to say, or hint, that this guy deserved to die because he was there, no matter that he came to help people, because we don't agree with the reasons for starting the war?
Anyway, I agree with Dr Unne.
I'd have to say that this is probably the best thing I've read on this board. Thank you.Originally Posted by Rei
ARGUMENT FROM GUITAR MASTERY
(1) Eric Clapton is God.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
damn internet explore, have to repost this cuz of illegal operation...
Yeah what those US prisoners did to the Iraqi prisoners doesnt reflect are whole military. But they fail to see that. I think they should just bombard Al-Jaazera network news because there biased as hell.
The only way Iraq will ever approach a democracy is if they are allowed a free press. Bombarding a network wouldn't solve anything. In America, we have news stations that are bias both ways, which balance things out.
Take care all.
The only way Iraq will have a democracy, is if it is no longer populated by Iraqies.The only way Iraq will ever approach a democracy is if they are allowed a free press.
When fighting monsters, be wary not to become one yourself... when gazing into the abyss, bear in mind that the abyss also gazes into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
The rightful owner of this Ciddie can kiss my arse! :P
Let's not blame "Arabs" for the despicable criminal actions of Al Qaeda terrorists. That organisation is a non-governmental, non-national group that should've been eliminated by now. Instead of looking for new nations to invade, the world should devote its *considerable* intelligence resources to tracking down and capturing/eliminating the entire network. Simply hurling cruise missile at training camps and mounting invasions of Middle Eastern countries won't accomplish the goal easily; it'll just make matters worse. Killing the innocent instead of the guilty.
Those who're directly involved in organising murderous groups like this need to be eliminated by one means or another. Since the deadly embassy bombings in 1997, and the US's brief explosive response to those crimes, Al Qaeda's threat has simply grown. "Vowing" to hunt them down, and then invading Afghanistan and Iraq and going on a wanton "liberation spree" won't achieve a lasting success against the terrorist groups. Instead of shooting everything that (1) moves and (2) looks like a terrorist, we should take a break from active destruction, get accurate and reliable information on the exact location of key operatives, and then eliminate them all in a decisive act, free of collateral casualties.
Israel successfully used such strategies against militant groups back in the '70s, launching brief but effective and well-planned raids against specific, individual targets; entire terrorist cells were wiped out with no innocent blood spilled.
Far better than the current strategy of "bomb a hostile nation's infrastructure into nothingness and then occupy".
Also, on a related note, there shouldn't be any civilian contractors in Iraq until the military has been able to stabilise and secure the nation. It's too hostile a locale for innocent outsiders to be caught up in it, as much as their humanity may be admirable.
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