chaos: Most of what Ansem has mentioned is true. The revealing more of the Unknown, one of them named "Vixen".
Rubedo: Hopefully, Riku will finally be a party member. He is definetly the coolest of the crew, next to Axle. And Mickey doesn't go evil, I'm pretty sure. That would just be plain wrong. More worlds will also be revealed, like the Beauty and the Beast one.
Trowa: I just hope that they add a few Final Fantasy Worlds...
Albedo: *Laughs maniacally*
Spoilers galore.
Firstly, it is clear that Sora, Donald and Goofy ended up in some strange world with a seemingly endless road. At the beginning of Deep Dive, Sora finds himself alone at cross in four different directions. The general consensus is that the roads lead to the four worlds mentioned in Deep Dive: the present world (where one would assume Sora came from), the world of darkness, the world of light and the world inbetween. This is also where Chain of Memories apparently begins, and he is approached by Axel at this point, or so the screen shots I've seen would suggest. How he was seperated from Donald and Goofy, I haven't a clue.Originally Posted by Bahumat
However, at some point we know he returns to the present world and rejoins Donald and Goofy, as they are shown together in Hallow Bastion in the Kingdom Hearts two trailers. There, they encounter five Unknowns in the great crest area of Hallow Bastion. Sora cuts down a couple heartless and jumps up to one of the unknowns who is beginning to pull back his hood. Sometime before or after this, one Unknown raises his arms and four more appear behind him.
Later, it those white monsters (perhaps the real heartless, not the ones created by Ansem) show up and serve Sora, Donald and Goofy their rear's on a silver platter. At this time, Unknown Mickey shows up with his inverted Kingdom Key Keyblade and takes them all down.
Second, I don't think that he was asking the heartless where Sora was. Why would he ask a question to something that can't respond? I think he was calling up to Riku, if anyone. That or he could have been talking to himself. I think the former is more likely.
I don't think that Sephy would be a good guy, and I also doubt that he will return. The only returning enemies they've announced are Hades and Jafar, at least as far as I know. Clearly some of the Unknowns are the badguys. In the official trailer at the Japanese site for the game it is shown that one of the Unknowns is manipulating Beast because he has control of the wilting rose, making Beast a temporary enemy, it would seem.
One thing that really gets me about the trailer is when Sora does some fancy moves with his keyblade, as if he's about to lock a keyhole, and instead, blue lines form around him (much like in Another Side, Another Story where the Hallow Bastion/Heartless sigil appears around the dual-wielding Unknown) and it forms the crown, the keychain for Oblivion that also appears on Sora's necklace. It's just something new, these blue energy symbols on the ground, and it's making me wonder.
I still stand by my statement about the Unknowns. They're definately split and choose different sides. I'd like to think that they're just the bodies of those who lost their hearts to the heartless and were strong enough to remain without a heart, or they're the bodies of those who cast of their bodies to exist only as a heart, like Ansem. It would explain how he was back. I don't know about you all, but I definately think the light of Kingdom Hearts destroyed Ansem because his heart was so full of darkness.
We also cannot be sure about the number of Unknowns either. In Deep Dive, five different ones appear: the dual-wielding one, Riku, the one with glowing eyes, and the one sitting at the beach (perhaps the meeting place suggested in the 13 points?) and then Mickey. Then there's five in Hallow Bastion at the beginning of Kingdom Hearts II and the enigmatic man from Final Mix (who is probably one of the other Unknowns.) Because the five at Hallow Bastion were all normal sized, i.e. not Mickey. So, excluding the one in red (Ansem) there are at least six Unknowns.
The two mentioned introduced in Chain of Memories, the red-headed Axel and the Sephiroth look-a-like Vixen give identities to 5 of the six Unknowns. Then there's Riku and the blonde/dual-wielding guy and Mickey, that leaves one who we don't know: the guy with the glowing/heartless-estique eyes. Since none of these have been mentioned, he has to be someone completely different. There is the possibility that he is the dual-wielding/blonde haired kid as we have yet to see his face and it is possible that he has glowing eyes, but I find it unlikely.
So there's Riku, the blonde, Vixen, Axel and Mickey and the unnamed one. There is always the possibility that there are more and that the ones standing at Hallow Bastion are different from the two in Deep Dive: the sitting one and the one with glowing eyes, and I feel that's a very real possibility.
I never get tired of the theory that the blonde is Sora's body that was discarded after Sora unlocked his heart with the Oblivion. His body disappeared and his heart became a heartless, but when Kairi held him he returned through the strength of his heart. Their hair is very familiar, except for the difference in color, and that may be the reason they don't show his face.
Man, I never get tired of trying to figure this all out.
Last edited by Ouch!; 09-02-2004 at 10:28 PM.
I got big news! the BHK name is Sion
Those 1000 words have never been spoken.....
The name of the topic starter says AShadowsBlaze but my old posts say carnage.....................interesting. o yeah your news is important to.
so the BHK name could be either Sion or Carnage?
Those 1000 words have never been spoken.....
No my old EoFF SN was AShadowsBlaze and it didnt update it.
oh, sorry
Those 1000 words have never been spoken.....
I've heard that Sion rumor before, but I'd bet a million bucks it's not true. Sion was the main character from Squaresoft's first PS2 title, The Bouncer. I don't think they'd use that name for two different characters. Though it's pretty agreeable that Sora's attire in Kingdom Hearts is pretty much the same as Sion's.
It is possible, but unlikely.
a EoFF member named Fat Hobbit said it was Sion on a 1 year old thread, thats where I got the rumor from.
Those 1000 words have never been spoken.....
The main unknowns are: Ansem (well, we dont know for sure that this is Ansem, but its almost definatly a returning character, and not a disney one, so the obvious one is Ansem), Axel, Rikku, and SEMI-SPOILER EVEN THOUGH ITS ON MANY SITES, BUT IT DOES KINDA SPOIL CoM
Mickey, though hes almost definatly spying on the unknowns. Also, playable mickey? Doubt it. Mickey is sorta the no-go zone for Disney Games.
i have a clue to BHK
Sion is a good guess but there were 2 names that kome up clear on a japanese website i have been too i have seen his face and his name is either Saisoku in japanese but as for english version they prolly give him an english name like Sion but wut i have heard it is something towards Saisoku but hey ur guess is as good as mine
I just had a theory hit me. there is the world to light, dark and in-between right? i would be willing to bet that the world inbetween is the one where the unknowns reside. Also at the end of deep dive it shows the two unknowns talking. Then it flashes to sora flying across the ocean looking like he did when he was falling into the darkness (when he unlocked his heart). The water that he is flying across is the exact same to that on the beach where the unkowns are talking. This strikes many possibilities and these are what i've thought of so far.
1. This scene (i think that they are very close together time wise) happened when sora unlocked his heart and his soul was going to become an unknown and the two on the beach are waiting for him (explaining why one of them was explaining that "he looks just like you"
2.The other theory is that at the crossroads sora was persuaded by the unkown who talked to him (i still think its the tall one and not axel) to choose the path to the world in-between.
tell me what you think
Peace out and :rock:
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from wat i here is more than 1 riku in kh 2, they r his clones and he does have ammenia.
I know the face of deul keyblade weider kid http://www.kh2.co.uk/?kh2=Main, there u will find info on him, mickey is under cover and i think riku and the unknowns are conected to each other cus in kh 1 riku became part of the darkness and was able to control the heartless, well i think the hertless took a part of rikus mind and made copies of himself and formed the unknown. and i haven't a clue of sora but there are new worlds like the pirates of the carabiean and mulan
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Where did you get the Heartless copying riku idea?
Anyway play CoM to get at least a good theory of KH2. I would just say it but I don't feel like typing.
ok i was wrong about the riku stuff but it may happen, but wat i do know is that for sora to have to keyblades he merges with goofy and turns red. I jus got one question in the final mix the secert video, y does one unknown say to the other he looks like u, but from that video u can tell riku does have memory problems and mickey is trrying to save riku. Wasn't the oblivion riku's before sora got it, so how did the unkown get the oblivion and the oath keepre if kari gave that to sora. And my last question is, in the begeinning of kh 1 leon says the heartless can only b destroyed by keyblades so why can donald and goofy and all the other characters beat them?hit me back on this aiight
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