Thank you del, random japanese dude is a perfect example of what i mean, but also the charecters are whiny little BOYS not MEN their balls have not dropped yet and i dont find myself intrigued at all with theyre problems. I will wait and see 12 though, i have seen and heard new things since i posted and am a little more interested. But one more gripe (okay im whiny sometimes too) Could we PLEASE have a more dramatic camara system like in 7 where Cloud would be at the end of a hall and wed have to move him toward a static camara until he passes. Its just so much more cinematic. I cant wait to se Advent Childeren. Sephiroth in real CG. SWEET.