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    Here it is.

    http://www.intellectualconservative....ticle3444.html

    Please discuss. But then again, I'm betting most people will just ignore this because it's from a conservative website.
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    He shouldn't have hesitated to shoot those children.

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    That wasn't an easy read.

    I won't comment on his actions, because god knows what I'd do in that situation. War is terrible.

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    I don't see what's there to discuss... it's sad, that's all I have to say.
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    DocFrance, I really wish you'd stop assuming that all of us "liberals" are so close-minded and set in our ways that we won't look at something simply because it is conservative.

    This is war. This is what happens in war. I am not surprised, I don't think the man has anything to be ashamed of, my only qualm is, as always, that we are there, and that it is happening in the first place. I do not like hearing of children being killed, but as I said this is war, and war is either kill or be killed.

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    It may be conservative...BUT IT'S INTELLECTUAL CONSERVATIVES!!!!11111ONEONE

    DocFrance, I really wish you'd stop assuming that all of us "liberals" are so close-minded and set in our ways that we won't look at something simply because it is conservative.
    Thanks.



    Anyway, no, there is not much to discuss. I just have to say something: Unne, he hesitated to shoot the kids because, oh, big surprise, he's a human being, not a killing machine. In fact, I am surprised he did not describe what he may feel after doing that. I mean, I guess that at the moment of the shooting you don't even think of it, but I guess that after awakening in the hospital you would not feel too good about it. But well, he's a soldier, not a writer, so I don't expect any great narration, yet I don't believe he must feel to well about what he did, justified or not.


    By the way, completly off topic, in one of the moments, the driver said "Oh my God" and they censored God (G**). Since when is God a bad word?

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    Yes very sad and I agree with un he shouldn't have hesitated to shoot those children. They were shooting at him. they were the enemy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert
    Yes very sad and I agree with un he shouldn't have hesitated to shoot those children. They were shooting at him. they were the enemy.
    For God's sake, they were childrens. Would you kill a child without even hesitating? If you do, then please, seek medical help.

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    If they're shooting at me then yes I would. I would rather live.

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    By the way, completly off topic, in one of the moments, the driver said "Oh my God" and they censored God (G**). Since when is God a bad word?
    Interesting coming from the "religious right" isn't it?

    If I were attacked by a child, I may kill them to save my own life, but I'd probably go for taking them out of action personally. But that is war, and I can understand the adreneline and panic involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert
    If they're shooting at me then yes I would. I would rather live.
    And you would not hesitate nor feel remorse?

    I don't believe you.

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    This article makes me wonder why people volunteer to join the army.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skogs
    This article makes me wonder why people volunteer to join the army.
    Well, it used to use the whole education, salaries and work thing. Well, now it's the agressive FIGHT TERROR message thing. Depends on when people joined, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Nexus
    And you would not hesitate nor feel remorse?

    I don't believe you.
    I never said I woulnd't feel remorse. But If someone anyone is shooting at me and is intending to kill me and I have a loaded weapon in my hands I will fire back even if it was my own mother. I know they were just young kids but hell I'm only 18 I still have a long life ahead of me. And in this instance he gave them a chance to get away the first time by not firing I may have done the same I don't know I'm not there. But I can tell you that I would NEVER give them another chance. It'e war and most of us have never been there. All I can say is that at this very moment I feel that yes I would open fire on those children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Behold the Void
    DocFrance, I really wish you'd stop assuming that all of us "liberals" are so close-minded and set in our ways that we won't look at something simply because it is conservative.
    It's happened several times before, so I falsely assumed it would happen again. Please forgive me.
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