Is this justice?

[Lord Xehanort]

Okay, here's my rambling:


In America, a person can lose their job and be taken to court for being racist in any way, shape or form. Any disagreement between a white person and a black one is automatically a hate crime and the maximum penalty is delivered. Basically, you say 'nigger', you're going to be paying a few thousand dollars.

However, 'gay-bashing' is perfectly legal. The Constitution prohibits discrimination based on 'race, gender or previous condition of servitude'. However, discrimination based on sexual orientation is perfectly legal. In all reality, a heterosexual who calls me a 'faggot' is in no danger of any punishment.

Am I out of line, or is this unfair?

Discuss.

[Psychotic]

It is extremely unfair. But so is life.

[Cz]

But that doesn't mean that it's right, does it?

Yes, it is extremely unfair, and something should be done about it. Especially the use of 'gay' as a euphamism for 'bad' (i.e. 'gamecube is gay it has crappy grfx + teh gamz r crap 2'). People throw the word around, without even considering what they are saying.

[Nyomi]

Being bisexual, I know it is very unfair, but gay rights are being discussed and fought for as we speak. It's just going to take time, like it did for women’s rights and black's rights. I mean, Canada has legalized gay marriage, and now some states are thinking of doing the same, so don't loose hope. Just continue to voice your opinion, because now that more people are coming out of their closets, so to speak, something will have to be done soon. ^_^

[Mikztsu]

I agree with Nyomi. Things like these are certainly going to better direction.

[Shlup]

A crime against a gay person is tried as a hate crime*, and calling someone names referring to their sexuality is sexual harassment.

A couple examples of "hate crimes" against homosexuals: 1, 2.

Still, I'm very against the whole "hate crime" classification. All crimes are crimes of hate, and assuming a crime is commited because of bigotry just because the difference exists is just as bigoted as what they are trying to prevent.

[Phil]

I'm with shlup. If its a crime, isnt it done in hate? It doenst matter if your black or white. If a white guy killed a white guy it isnt a hate crime because their both white. thats just stupid. he did it out of hate.

[Kirobaito]

I agree with your second point, about gay rights, but I don't agree at all with the first part, about racism. While a white man killing a black man is classified as a hate crime, a black man killing a white man isn't. That's "unfair", if you would like to call it that. Neither of them should be under that category. We're all people.

[Erdrick Holmes]

Well everyone got it right but I think Bill ment this; he told that discrimination based on sexual orientaion is legal. He told me of a man who was working somewhere in Michigan, he was doing good but when his boss found out he was gay he fired him for it, it was legal also. I personally think it's bullcrap, what people do behind closed doors with whomever they want is nobody elses business.

[Peegee]

It's one thing to determine with some sort of syllogism that such-and-such is bad. It's another to impose it on the population. Of course this could all be due to my experiences with racism, associating it with some sort of social norm, and then feeling culture shock when people stopped being racist. I honestly miss racism from time to time...it's odd.

[TasteyPies]

Yeah i think its wrong, you shouldn't be punished for saying anything....isn't this the land of the free? The word nigger doesn't hurt people, Stupid racists hurt people.

Not saying im racist or anything. But what i am saying is that races dont matter for crap. I honestly dont care if your black,mexican,asian ect. But homosexuality on the other hand i AM against. And don't now feel like your obligated to flame me its my christian belief that God made Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve for a reason and I believe I should and will respect that.

(Maybe i should mak a catchphrase too?)
Thats all -Tastey

[Jebus]

Fine that's your Christian belief. Just don't force that belief onto other people. Homosexuals can't help how they feel. You can't help who you love. It just happens. And treating them as inferior is wrong. They're human too, and should be treated as such.

[TasteyPies]

Fine that's your Christian belief. Just don't force that belief onto other people. Homosexuals can't help how they feel. You can't help who you love. It just happens. And treating them as inferior is wrong. They're human too, and should be treated as such.

....so where in my post exactly did i say they were inhuman? I just said I dont suport them.

Thats all -Tastey

[Jebus]

I never said you thought they were inhuman. I just said that they're your beliefs. And I guess I lost myself again and sterotyped Christians again. My apologies.

[Kirobaito]

To keep you from further apparently stereotyping Christians - I am one, and you know me pretty well.