High five! [Insert High Five Smiley Here]Originally Posted by King Bahamut
To keep you from further apparently stereoptyping Christians - I am one, and you know me pretty well.
Anyway whats wrong with stealing the word gay from homosexuals? they stole it from happy people (not saying homosexuals can't be happy)
Thats all -Tastey
Last edited by TasteyPies; 05-31-2004 at 04:12 AM.
Very true, and Fag was stolen by the English. A fag is a cigarette. Just kinda funny stuff going round. Hey, nothing wrong with christians, I gots christian friends, and I am a spiritual person myself. ^_^ But anyway, back on topic...High five! [Insert High Five Smiley Here]
Anyway whats wrong with stealing the word gay from homosexuals? they stole it from happy people (not saying homosexuals can't be happy)
Thats all -Tastey
Discrimination = BAD!
Kill the spiders to save the butterflies.
It's only rational until you realize that by striving for it,
you become a spider yourself.
[q]Fine that's your Christian belief. Just don't force that belief onto other people.[/q]
Yet you can prevent me from being racist?
Noone can prevent you from being anything, just make it super hard and unfair
Heck the KKK are legal aint they?
(Not saying in ANY way shape or form anyone should suport them)
Thats all -Tastey
When a judge or magistrate presiding over a court of any level in the judicial hierachy comes across a common law or statute law (legislation) that is phrased in a somewhat confusing manner, then it is expected of that judge to interpret that law 'purposely' not 'literally.' That is to interpret it as it was supposed to be. For example, there's a motorist law here in Australia saying, "in an accident with another vehicle, one must stop immediately." If a judge was to interpret this literally, then a person who crashes into someone, comes a complete halt and drives away as soon as he stops is not breaking this motorist law at all. If, however, the judge interprets it according to it's purpose, then he/she can assume that the purpose behind the stopping is so the drivers can exchange details etc. In the example you've provided, then a judge would have to count discrimination based on sexual orientation as discrimination as well.
A faggot was originally a small bundle of wood used in lighting fires.
Anywho, I am in total agreement with the first post of this thread. And also with Shlup. All crimes are hate crimes, therefore none should be exempt from this rule of thumb, and 'gay-bashing' is just as bad as 'race-bashing' which is just as bad as 'any-bashing.'
I think our society needs to be more accepting of diversity. And at the same time, the justice system needs to toughen up. Life imprisonment should mean life imprisonment, and discriminating against people because of their sexual orientation, or any other difference shouldn't be tolerated.
Wow! So much positive reinforcement! Thankies, guys!
I admit, perhaps I was too quick and general in my first post. I was more or less trying to find some way to get my point across.
Joel is absolutely right. That's what I'm talking about. Any person in the state of Michigan who is subject to discrimination based on sexual orientation has no legal standing to oppose their aggressor. That firing he mentioned actually happened.
As for TasteyPies... let's see, how shall I say this? You're wrong. According to you, being black is fine and peachy, but being a homosexual is not. Doesn't your belief state that God creates all people? In His image? If God created all men, then there's nothing wrong with being who He created you to be. See why Christianity is not to my liking? They frown upon me for what their supposed God created me to be.
Well, if you have a problem with homosexuality, that's not too bad, I guess. You still think of me in the same light. I'm a bisexual, so you don't have a problem with it! YAY!
Your Friendly Neighborhood Bisexual Atheist,
~Ansem~
Yup exactly
Nope, God created Adam Holy, but then he sinned by eating the fruit, whats that have to do with being homosexual?
God created adam, since he sinned the world was full of sin. God didn't create people gay, they chose it. I hope everyone supports me on the following...People are a product of their environment, what they see as good becomes good and accepted by them. Why was everyone in Ancient Rome bi? because it was accepted as the norm. not because they were all born that way. God gives us the freedom to make our own choices good or bad alike.
Most Males in Rome were Bi, your telling me by chance they were all born Bi?
Tell me why the number of homosexual people is increasing in the U.S.? because people are exepting it as the norm, its a permanent trend.
P.S. I dont mean to force my beliefs on anyone, but you can't expect me to keep silent after you tell me something i have believed in for 15 years is flat out wrong.
Thats all -Tastey
Last edited by TasteyPies; 06-01-2004 at 02:27 AM.
I'm sure most of you have already seen this list but I'm posting it again anyway because it needed to be posted.
<ol><li>Homosexuality is not natural, much like eyeglasses, polyester, and birth control are not natural.</li><li>Heterosexual marriages are valid because they produce children. Infertile couples and old people cannot get legally married because the world needs more children.</li><li>Obviously gay parents will raise gay children because straight parents only raise straight children.</li><li>Straight marriage will be less meaningful, since Britney Spears's 55-hour just-for-fun marriage was meaningful.</li><li>Heterosexual marriage has been around for a long time, and it hasn't changed at all: women are property, Blacks can't marry Whites, and divorce is illegal.</li><li>Gay marriage should be decided by the people, not the courts, because the majority-elected legislatures, not courts, have historically protected the rights of minorities.</li><li>Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are always imposed on the entire country. That's why we only have one religion in America.</li><li>Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people makes you tall.</li><li>Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage license.</li><li>Children can never succeed without both male and female role models at home. That's why single parents are forbidden to raise children.</li><li>Gay marriage will change the foundation of society. Heterosexual marriage has been around for a long time, and we could never adapt to new social norms because we haven't adapted to cars or longer lifespans.</li><li>Civil unions, providing most of the same benefits as marriage with a different name are better, because a "separate but equal" institution is always constitutional. Separate schools for African-Americans worked just as well as separate marriages will for gays & lesbians.</li></ol>
Did you choose to be straight? No. Well, neither did gay people. Yes, it's not something that's supposed to happen, maybe... but it still does, and they don't choose to be gay. And they're still people.God didn't create people gay, they chose it.p
When fighting monsters, be wary not to become one yourself... when gazing into the abyss, bear in mind that the abyss also gazes into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
The rightful owner of this Ciddie can kiss my arse! :P
Ano...I'm gay, but my parents aren't.... That one there doesn't make much sense...plus, if every gay person's parents are gay, then why would the #1 fear most gay people have is to tell their parents?
Kill the spiders to save the butterflies.
It's only rational until you realize that by striving for it,
you become a spider yourself.
Yeah, the point of that list is that it shows the fallacious logic in all of the statements listed. Straight parents don't raise only straight children (that's patently obvious, actually, since, because gay people couldn't naturally have reproduced before we developed the miracles of modern technology, all the gay people in society would have had to have formed from sexual intercourse between a man and a woman, which gay people are unlikely to have had); we're not a theocracy; "separate but equal" is not constitutional.
[TP has hereby forsaken topics that may conflict his religion because all of his valid points are looked over and all his points which may be argued upon are ripped to shreads by EoFF members. The only thing that TP can do in this situation is say things that more people dissagree on]
Thats all -Tastey
Often, the case in discussions like one this is that those whose arguments are ripped to shreds come to reconsider their viewpoints. Perhaps the time is now for such a reconsideration?
Just pointing it out.
I'm somewhat religious, actually, although I hardly identify myself with the vast majority of people who call themselves "Christians," and I have no difficulty reconciling agreement with such concepts as gay marriage with the fact that I myself would have no desire to participate in them personally.
"Perhaps the time is now for such a reconsideration?" -the man
Why when the points that are given to argue me are not valid points themselves but rather popular opinions?
"Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people makes you tall." -The Man
OK from hereon out nomore from tastey
Thats all -Tastey
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