Is this justice?

[The Man]

You didn't pick up on the fact that that list was entirely a satire, did you?

Or are you indicating that you believe gay people choose to be gay, when the vast majority of scientific research and gay people themselves indicate the reverse is likely? Ever had a crush on someone you didn't want to have a crush on? It's a well known feeling - you don't want to continue devoting so much of your attention to you, but, for a given time anyway, you're nonetheless irresistibly drawn to them even though you know it's bad for you. Would you condemn them for their choice? Because it's exactly the same principle at work here.

[escobert]

How can you have a crush on someone you don't like? just doesn't make sense to me. This thread seems more like a EoEo than a GC thread imo.

[The Man]

It's easy: You develop a crush on someone; subsequently realise that they're a complete arsehole, or already have a boyfriend, or some such; and retain the crush through this experience. That's just one instance; I've had other instances occur to me, as well, but it's hardly pleasant to think of, so you'll understand why I don't particularly care to dredge up the memories for this thread.

[escobert]

I misunderstood you. I thaught you meant that it would be liek having a crush on a person you disliked sort of thing nto a they already were taken.

[The Man]

I've had that too, actually, but in my case I had the crush before I started disliking them. It's an interesting, if wrenching, experience - You see their obvious flaws and know that they'd be bad for you, but can't help wanting them regardless. Thankfully, it usually takes less time to get over such a crush.

I've never actually developed a crush on someone I already despised, but it's said there's a thin line between love and hate, so I can see it happening if that's actually the case (and in my experience, it can be).

[Casey]

Yes, it is extremely unfair, and something should be done about it. Especially the use of 'gay' as a euphamism for 'bad' (i.e. 'gamecube is gay it has crappy grfx + teh gamz r crap 2'). People throw the word around, without even considering what they are saying.

I think its being political correct to say for a instance a person says "oh thats gay" people are like ''oh watch it now there! you might be offending some homos!" when really a word can have multiple meanings in today's society. Like when a dude goes "sup dawg!" that doesnt mean the dude is a dog, but a man. :mog:

[Jebus]

It would be PC if by "gay" they meant "happy". Gay as in bad is just a socially accepted insult, which is not PC nor right in any sense of the word.

[Lord Xehanort]

OK from hereon out nomore from tastey

Praise be to Yevon! No more hypocrisy here!

Ok, I need to know. Is The Man actually somewhat agreeing with me?

Back to the topic: I am, once again, surprised by the positive reinforcement I'm getting. I had expected all the Christians to come crashing down upon me with their 'morals'. Thanks to all the sensitive people of EoFF! *huggles*

I dont mean to force my beliefs on anyone, but you can't expect me to keep silent after you tell me something i have believed in for 15 years is flat out wrong.

I didn't say the belief was wrong. I said you're wrong. Big difference.

[Lehteb]

However, 'gay-bashing' is perfectly legal. The Constitution prohibits discrimination based on 'race, gender or previous condition of servitude'. However, discrimination based on sexual orientation is perfectly legal. In all reality, a heterosexual who calls me a 'faggot' is in no danger of any punishment.

It's a shame that America has no laws other than those explicitly stated in the constitution.

It's also a shame that those laws are in direct contrast with the first amendment.

Obviously, being that we (we meaning americans, sorry for my ethnocentrism, but it happens) have all these rights, we should be able to hate ANYONE, no matter what their skin color or sexual orientation is.

If i want to hate you because you are black or white or hispantic, etc, I, as an american, should be legally allowed to do so...

correct?

so if I follow those feeling up with my legally protected right to free speach, why should i be punished?

[escobert]

But why is it ok for you to say he's wrong and to bash what he beleives in? I think you're being a little hypocriticle yourself. I have no rpoblem with gay people I have friends who are gay. most times I side with the gays more than the christians but, I don't think it's rith that you talk about how you want everyone to stop hating gays when all you're doing is tellign him everything he thinks and feels is wrong and what he believes in isn't right.

[DocFrance]

It would be PC if by "gay" they meant "happy". Gay as in bad is just a socially accepted insult, which is not PC nor right in any sense of the word.

This is why I try to differentiate between the words "gay" and "ghey." "Ghey" means something that is bad, stupid, or wrong. "Gay" means homosexual. Or happy.

Praise be to Yevon!

Dude, that was really ghey.

[Lord Xehanort]

But why is it ok for you to say he's wrong and to bash what he beleives in? I think you're being a little hypocriticle yourself. I don't think it's rith that you talk about how you want everyone to stop hating gays when all you're doing is tellign him everything he thinks and feels is wrong and what he believes in isn't right.

It isn't right. No religion is right because none are proven. How does one place their faith in something they aren't certain of? From what I understand, the supposed God has a 'divine plan'. If that's the case, and everything is as it is because He wishes it, then there should be no sins. Yet there are. Interesting. Being born bisexual isn't my crime, it is who I am. No different than if I had been born black. I don't see what TasteyPies doesn't understand about that. And until he sees that I am not in any way guilty here, I will say that he is wrong. That seems reasonable to me.

[Meat Puppet]

Reading up on faggot true it was a bundle of sticks, but a bundle of sticks used to burn gay people. Just like they burned witches. "They" as in, you know, That C word.

[Lord Xehanort]

This fuels my hatred of the 'C' word even more. They made a specific name for a bundle of sticks used for burning homosexuals?! That's just plain morbid! And they claim to be forgiving people! Who're they trying to kid with that bull scrotum!?

[Kirobaito]

I don't appreciate you using the word 'They.' By the word 'They', you mean Christians. I for one, have never burned a homosexual, nor do I plan to. I don't think you are going to hell because you are a bisexual. I think you are going to hell because of other reasons, that you do not believe in Jesus. While there are Christians who are much more fundamental zealots than I, by using the word 'they' and saying what 'they' do, you have judged me just as much as you claim that we have to you. Before you call Christians hypocrites, which we are (we all are), maybe you should realize that YOU, in fact, are also.

I believe that a person who has murdered hundreds, and truly wants to be forgiven from Jesus and God, will be saved. I think that someone who has never done ANYTHING wrong besides the occassional white lie that hasn't asked for forgiveness from Jesus and God will go to hell. Just stating, I'm not sure if this applies to the discussion at all.

Thus, don't hate the 'C' word. Because, by using the same token that you just did, I could state that I hate black people because some black people shot my uncle, and did so because of 'black pride', which actually did happen. But I don't.