This game needs more dark, brooding tough guys.

[Trumpet Thief]

Yeah, I too think that FF6 has the darkest feel to it. Just listen to the opening theme and the clothing of the characters.

chaos: Agreed...

Rubedo: Definetly the best FF ever made...

[TheAbominatrix]

What does the clothing have to do with it though?

[kikimm]

Generally, people in Final Fantasy don't wear clothes that are light, sunny, bright, and all that good stuff if they have a personality like....Shadow, or someone. It seems like Tetsuya Nomura wants their clothes to have more symbolism, so they reflect their personalities more. I know that this doesn't work the same way in real life, but it's fairly easy to judge the characters by the way they look here.

All I ask is to get out of the blond-haired hero thing. I'm tired of it. And older, more experienced ones. The darker the better. *shrug* Oh well. This doesn't mean that I'm looking forward to FF12 any less.

[aeris2001x2]

Yes Tidus was a disgrace to men. Lets hope this main charicter is more macho....wait nevermind miss Aniston walks like she is in high heels

man what is so bad bout Tidus? he starts as annoying jock, but by the end he mature's into noble guardian. he mature's so much in this game...or cant u get past the jock sterotype?

anyway, back on topic. ffXII looks like its gonna be a solid title. it wont be ffVI/VII quality...but i suspect it will not disapoint.

anyone have any idea who the main villain will be? that will be a huge factor in dertimining how dark it is...

[Takara]

It seems like Tetsuya Nomura wants their clothes to have more symbolism, so they reflect their personalities more. I know that this doesn't work the same way in real life, but it's fairly easy to judge the characters by the way they look here.

Tetsuya Nomura didn't make the character designs for FFXII, by the way. Just because Nomura designed the characters outfits to reflect the characters' personality doesn't mean it will be the case with Akihiro Yoshida's designs. Maybe Ashe will turn out to be a prude, Penelo will be a total "female-dog", and Fran will be as sweet as cotton candy.

[TheAbominatrix]

And Nomura also didnt do the designs for VI... and Shadow is dressed as he is because he's a ninja, and that's all pretty standard-fare ninja gear. Though the dark seclusion of it does reflect his personality.

And what I meant was... the clothing of VI didnt look at all dark. If you look at the designs (or even just the sprites), Terra has a cute little dress, and so on and so forth, too tired to go over more than that.

[kikimm]

Whoopsies. Sorry-I was talking mainly about the ones he did do them for, although I realize I used Shadow (my mistake). I probably should have used Lulu, or someone like that.

[TheAbominatrix]

No worries, I got the gist. I just mainly wanted to point out that the argument that the clothing in VI was darker was silly... cause it wasnt really darker.

But I understand what ya mean. xD

[Del Murder]

I miss the old days of just a blue shirt and black pants.

[Cz]

While Vaan may not be as tough-looking as Cloud, it looks like he'll be a more serious character than say, Zidane or Tidus. His childish looks appear to hide a deeper and more thoughtful character, which should be a welcome change from...well, Tidus.

[DJZen]

Eh, I'd prefer FF games NOT be completely dark. Why? I find it obnoxious.

[aeris2001x2]

does it collerate that a dark character will be liked?. how many protagnists below r liked?

ffII-Firional...ok he was not dark, but he certainly was not childish

ffIV-Cecil. ok he is very liked, and he was a depressed loner.

ffV- Bartz. is this Pimp liked? he is no where near dark, yet.

ffVI-Terra,Celes,Locke,. i Know Locke at least is highly rated. yet he was a happy go-lucky adventurer. however Celes(SPOILER)almost commits sucide and Terra doesnt exactly emanate happiness. yet them two r liked.

ffVII-Cloud. in my opinion the Darkest and most screwed up main person. widely liked.

ffVIII-Squall. he too is very screwed up and full of internal darkness. yet he is widely hated. why?

ffIX- Zidane. very childish indeed. some ppl saw this guy as a breath of fresh air after all the seriousness of the last three games.

ffX-Tidus. is it really just his Jockness that irrates? he is not dark, but his journey from childhood to manhood over the game is admirable.

ffX-2. Yuna. again, darkness is not the point. its not about her being her own person. i guess the games focus's have changed recently.

ok i,ve lost my way. i guess what i,m trying to say is Darkness in a protagnist will not make them good or bad. there r far more important factors. but i guess after the last three protagnists, we ARE due for some dark person.

[Takara]

I wouldn't call Cecil a depressed loner. Depressed, yes. Being forced to kill innocent people would have affected anyone with a caring soul. Being a loner, though? Not likely. He cares and worries about his companions as much as they care and worry for him, unlike Squall who just ignored everyone and acted like an ass with them for a major part of the game.

But yeah, it's not the FFI-IV forums, so... *coughs* Back on the topic.

And I agree with Czanthor; Vaan doesn't look like a tough guy physically, with his baby face and all, but appearances can be deceiving. If you look at the back story that was given for him, he lost his entire family to the war. He wants to liberate the Kingdom from the invaders.

Unless we get to play and see how he acts, it's though to say if he'll be a wimp like Tidus (or worse, Edward ) or not, but from the little info we've been given so far, it looks like he'll be a much deeper character, and he may surprise us greatly.

[DJZen]

The hero of this game should TOTALLY be Dr. Raven Darktalon Blood. He is SOOO hardcore and dark. OMG SO H4RDC0R3 = >all!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

[aeris2001x2]

very funny...though i think Todd is decent(i like Spawn).