The FFII appreciation thread

[aeris2001x2]

Good job. You just ignored Minh, Josef, Gordon, Leila, and Richard--most of the main characters.There are nine main characters in this game. According to what you're implying, Tella, Gilbert, Yang, Cid, Porom, Palom, and Fusuya are not main characters in FFIV because they all leave the party permanently at some point. I have no idea why this escapes you.

they are not main characters at all simply because they dont appear in the instruction manual as opposed to ffIV in which the charcters u describe r noted. thats the only reason if u must know and a mute point. in my eyes they fill up spots while leon is away.

to be honest i fail to see how this stands up for ffII at all. all it does is pick out flaws in my grammer and arrangement of characters. the characters still have crap development. if thats the only thing u can pick out from my last post then my post of ffII hate views must be pretty valid.

seriously dont try to insult me, i do enough to myself so dont u dare anymore snidie comments like " i have no idea why this escapes you" because i just posted my views and u had to take it to another level. dont u try and provoke me into a flame post because i,m in a really depressed mood and if i express my anger here i will prob get banned. so please, dont do it.

and respectfully to the mod, there a several spoiler posts before my own, why target my own? why on the two times i forget to title my posts spoilers! do i get jumped on? why am i so angrey? oh thats right, cause i hate the place i live and the ppl in it and i cant get solace on-line anymore.

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

to be honest i fail to see how this stands up for ffII at all. all it does is pick out flaws in my grammer and arrangement of characters. the characters still have crap development. if thats the only thing u can pick out from my last post then my post of ffII hate views must be pretty valid.

When you criticized the personalities of the characters, you only mentioned three of them. Almost everybody else in the cast has more personality than Frioniel, Maria, and Lionheart, so to base your opinion of the personalities of the main cast on just them is flawed. It's like saying that the graphics in all Final Fantasy games are terrible based on just the graphics in the first three games.

and respectfully to the mod, there a several spoiler posts before my own, why target my own? why on the two times i forget to title my posts spoilers! do i get jumped on?

Those are the rules. And I don't see any other unmarked spoilers in this thread.

[aeris2001x2]

u put the spoilers yourself.


"It introduced to the series boss music, taunting subvillains, Dragon Knights, Leviathan, Cid, and for goodness's sake, chocobos. It founded the inspiration for môguri much like how Garland founded the inspiration for the Dark Knight concept. And you can't tell me Lionheart isn't a total proto-Cain."

i would consider these spoilers.

i did mention the other characters, under the heading of npcs by mistake. i said these had better development then the three that remain in your party at all times which is kinda silly.

mindu, gordon, richard, Lelia and josef have better characters then the "main" four but only as sub characters. if they were main characters then they would also suck, just not as much as the big four. for them 2 be considered main characters also would make the game worse imho.

[Ultima Shadow]

and no ultima shadow, burn the game, spare yourself the pain...
Edit by Kishi: Mark your spoilers.

Okay... *burns the cd* hahahaha stupid game *relises that it was my FFVII cd2, not FF2 that I burned* NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Jumps out from my window... *Dies*

You can't get solace on-line anymore? Why?

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

Stay on-topic, please.

[eestlinc]

I just finally started playing this one and I like it so far. The levelling system is a nice change of pace. It's kind of annoying that attacking with a mage can hurt your magic since you obviously can't cast a spell every turn. It's also annoying there is no parry/defend option for when you want a mage to not attack or cast a spell. Otherwise I like it, so far. I'm not that far, though. (Just got mythril).

[Ultima Shadow]

Well, what I can't stand is the leveling system and the characters. The characters are even whorse than those in FFX2 .

[aeris2001x2]

Stay on-topic, please.

dont be such a square...

right on to do with earlier, i cant call u a hyprocrite, that comes under an insult...leading to banning. so why do u present yourself with hyprocritical tendencies, (mark your spoilers, but i,m allowed to put them...stay on topic, but i,ll break the rules by trying to start a fight with aeris...)

i,m beginning to lose respect 4 u which i have always had.

[Del Murder]

I think a good idea would be for you to let kishi worry about what kishi does, and aeris worry about what aeris does. I don't think kishi is trying to start a fight with you, but even if he is how about you be the bigger person and not add fuel to the fire. Just follow the rules and everything will be fine. Please do not post in this topic again unless you have something constructive to say about Final Fantasy II. If you have a problem with kishi please feel free to pm him, I'm sure he would love to clear up any differences between you two.

[DJZen]

:O_O:

I'd like to get back to what I was saying originally, you know, about liking this game. Because of that, I'd like to do something I did a while back. I'd like to list ten things I like about this game (I like top 10 lists, they just amuse me. Okay, so I'm weird, so what?)

10) Equipping Gus with 2 axes and watching him destroy everything in sight.
9) You get to talk to beavers.
8) Levelling up spells is fun and rewards the dilligent. I mean, come on, Holy 10 is just an awesome thing to behold.
7) Basuna, it's just fun to say.
6) You get to somehow shoot arrows forward, watch them strike you from behind, and you manage to benefit from this.
5) One of your items is a dragon. I repeat, one of your items IS A DRAGON!
4) You can equip anything on anyone in any manner no matter how crazy it may seem, and you'll never completely screw yourself over. 2 Swords? You're now an awesome fighter! 2 Shields? Congratulations, no one will ever be able to hit you again! Nothing at all? Congratulations on recieving your black belt!
3) You can give the girls axes and make the guys total wimp white mages. Finally, a combat system that's completely gender neutral!
2) Tee hee, Basuna...
1) During the final battle, one round for my party looked something like: "Ultima 10, Holy 10, Flare 10, 17xHit-14xHit". DAAAAAAAAANG.

[Del Murder]

Basuna is fun to say.

[Marak]

I thought spells went up to 16?? Or am I merely misinformed? Or is it weapons that go up 16?

Gah! I need to play this game some more. It's the only non-3D FF that I know almost nothing about...

edit: typos. Dern things, popping up all over.

[DJZen]

Spells go up to level 16 but there's really not much reason to boost them that high. They're plenty powerful at level 10. In fact, I beat all the super bosses (SPOILER)(Tiamat, Beelzebub and Asteroth) with my spells at that level, making the final confrontation seem like a breeze. It's really your magic stats that you want to boost up (Intelligence makes your black magic more effective, Spirit makes your white magic more effective), that way you can crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of their women, which is truely the best thing in life.

[aeris2001x2]

hmmm...constructive things about ffII...

gorgeous remaked graphics

one of the best ff soundtracks period

a kick ass story

yes...there is a dragon

first outing of the empire scenario

last dungeon is etheral

some cool optional bossess( astiroth may not be as hard as the last boss but it was a sight 2 behold)

however there are lots of bad...oh sorry.

[auron_790]

I can't wait for the GBA version i think its gonna be great