FF8! What's Wrong With It?

[SeeDRankLou]

The point isn't that there wasn't developement, it's that it happened too rapidly. The point was that he thought of Rinoa as a hindrance and an annoyance, and the second she goes comotose, he's completely and totally head over heels in love with her. It was poorly done.

I agree and disagree at the same time. You are right that it was poorly done, but I don't think it happened too rapidly. The writers of this game don't go into enough emphasis that these characters are teenagers and are dealing with life in such a manner at the time this story takes place. Squall (being Squall) has probably never given a girl the time of day before, let alone considered being attracted to a girl, let alone fathomed falling in love. Squall probably doesn't really know how to handle having the feelings that he's having, so he does what every stupid boy does when he likes a girl and tries to be nice by being mean. I don't know about anyone else, but I could so see his instant attraction to her (through his stoic face) when he first saw her in the ballroom FMV, and how he was utterly disappointed almost to the point of tears when she just left in the middle of the dance. So when he saw her again, what do you think he was going to do, be happy? Especially when she said the she was really there looking for Cid, and that the dance was just because he was there. Then he finds out that she was dating Seifer and she still kind of likes him, major stab in the back. So of course he thinks she's annoying, she played him (well at least that's as played as he's ever been). So his annoyance takes a sharp pike, but then it gradually goes down. It's just hard to see, because reading Squall is like trying to reading Al Bhed Greek. First, you go from Al Bhed to Greek, and then from Greek to English. You are privy to his throughts all along, and he doesn't become unannoyed with her, he becomes less and less annoyed with her, because he's still holding on to the person he used to be. Squall juxtaposes several opposing feelings and positions almost constantly--trying to be the person he thought he was, trying to be the person he needs to be, and trying not to be the person that his feelings are making him be--until he breaks down at FH. For me, the transistion between Squall finding Rinoa annoying and falling in love with her happened rather smoothly. But the writers could have emphasized a lot of things much more that would have made it a bit more clear, because I do see where you are coming from. I just thought I'd share.

[Jolts]

Then he finds out that she was dating Sephiroth

AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! :laugh: :laughing:

But yeah, that's pretty much how it was.

[SeeDRankLou]

Then he finds out that she was dating Sephiroth

Oh wow, I need lunch. Too many S names, I get confused. I fixed it, it now says Seifer like it was suppose to.

[Jolts]

I could see that.

Rinoa: Sorry, Squall, I can't go out with you. I'm currently involved with a homicidal maniac from a completely different dimension.

[braver_cloud_strife]

Cities with them being closed is whats wrong with FF8 I swear that game could have done a bit more better.....it would have been better if those dumb cities just blew up from something instead of sitting there lookin at them knowing theres no way to get in..... :mad2:

[TasteyPies]

Whats worse is having mole hills in front of everything (ff9)

[Jolts]

Those aren't mole hills, those are tree roots, but yeah, having cities permanently closed is just plain wrong. I bet they only did that because they couldn't fit any more data on the fourth disc. Or just didn't want to. At least they could do something like they did with Mideel in FFVII. It got destroyed, but you could still visit the people who were able to save themselves from getting engulfed into the Lifestreem.

[Cloudane]

The point isn't that there wasn't developement, it's that it happened too rapidly. The point was that he thought of Rinoa as a hindrance and an annoyance, and the second she goes comotose, he's completely and totally head over heels in love with her. It was poorly done.

I think the point they were trying to get across is "you never know what you've got until you've lost it". He thought he'd lost Rin, and suddenly realised what he had (not just her but friends and other Good Things) and how ignorant he was of it. That's what I think anyway

Oh, and Jolts, fix your sig :P Having to scroll left and right all the time to read your posts is really annoying! kkthxla~

[Jolts]

My signature isn't all that wide at all. In fact, it's total width is only 160px. What, you can't see the images or something? We should really descuss this in PM, so, when you see this, do that, please.

Back on topic: Final Fantasy VII had stories, even for the "secret" characters. So, why didn't Final Fantasy VIII have more in-depth stories for Quistis, Zell, Selphe, and Irvine?

[aeris2001x2]

The only thing wrong with ff8 is that you can't tilt selphie during scan.

Come on, every guy here tried it once.

i,ve only just noticed how brillant this post is, and yes, that was a huge problem.

i think selphie Rinoa should also have had alternative outfits avaliable for beating the weapons. Omega would have had sum real worth then.

seriously, apart from being too easy and alot of character/plot flaws, this game just rocks. i feel a huge urge 2 play this again now.

[Zante]

I think FF8 is a great game. Only it isn't realy FF-like. As it is the first Final Fantasy I played, it didn't bother me. But if I would play it after playing FFVI and VII, I would be very disapointed.

[Jolts]

Squaresoft was actually more interested in FFVIII than they were with FFVII. In fact, they didn't even really like FFVII (read so in an interview). They wanted a more "serious" feel for FFVIII, and that's what they made.

"Learn from your mistakes."

[bluBob]

The only problems I had with FFVIII were, drawing got REALLY old, the fact that the entire last disk was just the final dungeon kinda irritated me, and the fact that all the main characters were orphans...from the same orphanage...and Edea was the head mistress...and they all forgot because of the gfs...I'm sorry, after that, I had to stop playing for awhile.

[ISRviper]

IMO I think that If they added vocies than this game would be the best thats really all there is missing vocies to go along with the cool looking characters

[Chris]

Personally I did enjoy Final Fantasy VIII.
But as much as I might like it, one cannot deny that the game could and should have been much better.

Here's why:

1. The characters were weak and extremely dull.
2. The gameplay is the worst thing that's ever been created.
3. The story was pathetic and very, very DULL. (At times they dragged it out so much to the point were I wanted to kill myself).
4. The villain had no apparent motives at all.
5. And finally, FFVIII has nothing on either FFVII or FFIX...or any other Final Fantasy come to think of it.

And here's the good things:

1. Laguna, WOW, the only character with an actual story.
2. Ellone...could have been interesting.
3. The music is magnificent...like all other FF games.
4. The graphics were amazing.
5. Amazing landscapes.