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    Default Idiot American Commander in Iraq Almost Starts War w/ Iran

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../ixportal.html

    Thank you British, for saving our butts again.

    America's military commander in Iraq ordered British troops to prepare a full-scale ground offensive against Iranian forces that had crossed the border and grabbed disputed territory, a senior officer has disclosed.

    An attack would almost certainly have provoked open conflict with Iran. But the British chose instead to resolve the matter through diplomatic channels.

    "If we had attacked the Iranian positions, all hell would have broken loose," a defence source said yesterday.

    "We would have had the Iranians to our front and the Iraqi insurgents picking us off at the rear."

    The incident was disclosed by a senior British officer at a conference in London last week and is reported in today's edition of Defence Analysis. The identity of the officer is not given.

    "Some Iranian border and observation posts were re-positioned over the border, broadly a kilometre into Iraq," a Ministry of Defence spokesman said.

    The incident began last July when Revolutionary Guards pushed about a kilometre into Iraq to the north and east of Basra in an apparent attempt to reoccupy territory which they claimed belonged to Iran.

    Lt Gen Ricardo Sanchez then ordered the British to prepare to send in several thousand troops to attack the Revolutionary Guard positions.

    The Revolutionary Guard Corps has 125,000 soldiers, making it 25 per cent larger than the entire British Army, and is equipped with 500 tanks, 600 armoured personnel carriers and 360 artillery weapons.

    The incident is reminiscent of the exchange during the Kosovo conflict between the American general, Wesley Clark, the supreme allied commander Europe, and Gen Sir Mike Jackson, the British commander.

    When Gen Clark told Gen Jackson to send British troops into Pristina airport to prevent Russian troops from taking control Gen Jackson refused. He was reported to have said: "I am not going to start World War Three for you."

    The Iran-Iraq incident lasted around a week and was resolved by a telephone conversation between Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, and Kamal Kharrazi, his Iranian counterpart, British officials said.

    "It did look rather nasty at the time," one official said. "But we were always confident it was a mistake and could be resolved by diplomatic means. We got in touch with Baghdad and said, 'Don't do anything silly; we are talking to the Iranians.' "

    While Mr Straw was trying to resolve the issue peacefully, British military commanders on the ground were calming their Iranian counterparts, the ministry said.

    The Revolutionary Guard was believed to be behind the seizure of eight Royal Navy and Royal Marines personnel last week after they strayed across the disputed border between Iraq and Iran.

    The eight men, who were delivering patrol boats to the Iraqi riverine patrol service, were released - but not before they were paraded blindfolded on Iranian television.

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    You're welcome. Why is it the US response in all these things seems to be "BLOW 'EM UP!!!" rather than "Right, let's sit down and talk things out and if all else fails, THEN we BLOW 'EM UP!!!" Seriously, that Kosovo incident isn't even the first; because the US got trigger happy in Korea, we ended up having the Chinese push through to stop the US from getting too close to them.

    Just another example of why the US military has a negative stereotype the world over.

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    It's not the "US Response", it is the response of certain PEOPLE in the US who should not in any way be representing us as a nation.

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    i think the us wants a conflict with iran, this was just an opportunity for them to place the blame on the iranians. thankfully, the british are at least somewhat sensible. thats just my take on this whole thing.

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    the only reason we don't do these kind of things anymore is because we can't afford it. It used to be any situation we'd go to war over, ahh the good old days.
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    Well I thank you for the compliments for us saving the world for WW 3 but I believe that if it wasn't for the military commanders refusing to attack Tony Blair would have backed President Bush all the way into WW 3 even if he knew it would mean certain doom to us all. So don't thank Britain our leader's a joke thank the military generals who refused to attack.

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    Well, Iran's going to get it, sooner or later... so, it doesn't really matter.

    But, yes, Americans are pretty trigger-happy, and not very cautious or careful in their dealings.
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    Did anything bad come of this? No, so what's the point in complaining about it?

    I swear, some people just love nitpicking at every tiny little thing they think the US does wrong.
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    technicly it was iran who were in the wrong, any incursion into iraq could of been seen and probably was an attempt to test the steal of the coalltion forces in iraq.
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    Eventually, if the war on terror ever makes news again, Iran AND Saudi Arabia must be dealt with. How many decades will that take though?

    Take care all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gokufusionss1
    technicly it was iran who were in the wrong, any incursion into iraq could of been seen and probably was an attempt to test the steal of the coalltion forces in iraq.
    I wouldnt doubt it.

    The US was in right this time, an attack to drive them out of Iraq would have been a perfectly acceptable solution, though i wouldnt have chosen it to be the first solution. Personally, i think, if Iran keeps testing the US(*nukes, supporting terrorism, etc.*) it wont end well for them. They'll be Iraq 2.
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    I don't think that'd be wise for the US. They're overstretched as it is, and have caused a lot of discontent in the world wide community. An attack on Iranian forces who entered what is internationally recognised as disputed territory could be turned by the enemies of the USA into "Look, they're attacking another Muslim nation without provokation!!! Look how evil they are!!! They could have spoken first!!!!" It may sound silly, but that's what would more than likely happen, and the masses around the world would be turned even further from the American cause.

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    [q]technicly it was iran who were in the wrong, any incursion into iraq could of been seen and probably was an attempt to test the steal of the coalltion forces in iraq.[/q]According to Iran, they entered 'disputed territory'. There was a long and bloody war between Iran and Iraq (c. two million casualties, if I recall correctly), so a lot of border areas probably weren't determined.[q]Personally, i think, if Iran keeps testing the US(*nukes, supporting terrorism, etc.*) it wont end well for them.[/q]Iran got its first nukes from the US... I don't think it's all that fair for the US to sell weapons to Iran and Iraq and then prompt them into a war, then say "omg! Iran has WMD and was in a war! They are obviously evil!" *teh invade*

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    Iran got its first nukes from the US
    Iran, fortunatly, still hasn't got any nukes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by War Angel
    Well, Iran's going to get it, sooner or later... so, it doesn't really matter.

    But, yes, Americans are pretty trigger-happy, and not very cautious or careful in their dealings.
    More like Israel is going to get it if they don't listen to the UN and abandon their weapons of mass destruction program, LoLZ Rite?

    P.s. HuRRR it's really smart to attack Iran HURRRRR Yes let's get a 100,000+ army attacking our soldiers while insurrgents attack them in the back buttocks.

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