One Smooth Talking 14 Year Old!

[Palindrome]

You can't say that teenagers are just as responsible or fully grasp the consequences of their actions. Their bodies aren't fully developed and neither are their minds. Think of how you were ten years ago. Were you as smart then as you are now? No, you were an idiot. You are just as big an idiot now. It is only going to take you ten more years to realize it. I think this is true for everyone.

If you want to legalize consensual sex among teens why not let minors drive cars, smoke cigarettes, and join the army. They are apparently old enough to understand what they are doing.

As for spelling, although it is considered low to insult someone's spelling and grammar, all standardized testing uses spelling and grammar to measure intelligence. It is basically a subtle way of insulting that. Don't get me wrong "i,m" not saying you are stupid. Just use spell check in the future it makes it easier to read.

[aeris2001x2]

yeah true but my spelling is pretty good and i am typing fast so if i,m considered low intellegence because of that then there must be some very stuiped ppl around considering i can say with no arrogance that i,m not too bad intellectually.

anyway what u were saying about legalising other stuff for teenagers touches on my earlier point. they r dangerous stuff, but there is other dangerous stuff thats not been made illegal. why is that?

[Endless]

teenagers have the option of using protection/ morning after pill to eliminate that eventuality and its those ppl who r dumb enough to allow an unwanted pregnency (unless there was a fault with the protection or pill) give other teenagers a bad name. as long as they dont bring a child into the world by staying safe(and thus not being imparted a sexually transmited diease as well) there is nought wrong with consentual teenage sex.

p.s- what is wrong with my spelling? i admit i,m not flawless but the only flaws i can see is some obscure gramatical flaws. why pick such low tactics into a vain attempt to invalidate my opinion?

Protection doesn't always works for teenagers for multiple reasons: misuse or stupidity ("let's do it standing", "use the pull out method") (which I admit could be lowered with proper education), hormonal cycles still getting in gear, and just the fact that neither the condom nor the pill offer a 100% protection. Not to mention STDs. And it doesn't make my claim that "teenagers still have no clue what the consequences can be" less stronger.

(For the spelling: we're not in a chatroom, nor talking through instant messaging/SMS. You can take your time, reread yourself (to avoid using "your" instead of "you're" for example), use punctuation, caps, " ' " instead of " , ", etc... English is not my native language, but it doesn't mean I have to write as if in a hurry in an AOL chatroom).

anyway what u were saying about legalising other stuff for teenagers touches on my earlier point. they r dangerous stuff, but there is other dangerous stuff thats not been made illegal. why is that?

Because the other activities you mentioned don't have the wide repercussions having a child does? Running is good for your health, same for sports, eating is necessary, having friends is not in itself dangerous, and same for playing outside. Why do kids do all these? Because they inherently require no responsibility from the kid that cannot be supervised by parents/teachers. Sports have regulations too, and rules to make it safe. Smoking on the other hand is inherently a health damage, driving requires responsibility for your acts (accidents are far too common among teenagers), same for drinking (it impairs your judgement and your reaction speed). How fun do you think it is to lose someone in a car accident that you caused? To have a cancer? Have you thought these through?
And you didn't reply to my other questions either.

[nik0tine]

If you want to legalize consensual sex among teens why not let minors drive cars, smoke cigarettes, and join the army. They are apparently old enough to understand what they are doing.

minors CAN drive cars, and personally, i think minors SHOULD be allowed to smoke ciggarettes (though i wouldnt do it) and as for the army, it wouldn't benefeit the army. physically inferior bodies are not something the army wants on the battlefeild.

[Palindrome]

I do suppose the driving age was a bad example but the fact is that you still have to wait until you reach the age where you have been deemed able to cope with such a responsibility. Even after which, there are still restrictions on what kinds of passengers can be in the car, how many and what hours you can be driving.

Smoking is just damn stupid. I don't think it should be legal at all and kids should be the last group people to be aloud to smoke.

[Casey]

That lady isnt hot at all IMHO, I dont know what some of you guys are talking about, her face is ugly... And that chick used to be Nick Carter's high school gf, I heard today on Fox News. -_-

[nik0tine]

I do suppose the driving age was a bad example but the fact is that you still have to wait until you reach the age where you have been deemed able to cope with such a responsibility. Even after which, there are still restrictions on what kinds of passengers can be in the car, how many and what hours you can be driving.

Smoking is just damn stupid. I don't think it should be legal at all and kids should be the last group people to be aloud to smoke.

well it makes no sense to have laws that arent enforced and never will be.

[aeris2001x2]

Protection doesn't always works for teenagers for multiple reasons: misuse or stupidity ("let's do it standing", "use the pull out method") (which I admit could be lowered with proper education), hormonal cycles still getting in gear, and just the fact that neither the condom nor the pill offer a 100% protection. Not to mention STDs. And it doesn't make my claim that "teenagers still have no clue what the consequences can be" less stronger.

(For the spelling: we're not in a chatroom, nor talking through instant messaging/SMS. You can take your time, reread yourself (to avoid using "your" instead of "you're" for example), use punctuation, caps, " ' " instead of " , ", etc... English is not my native language, but it doesn't mean I have to write as if in a hurry in an AOL chatroom).



Because the other activities you mentioned don't have the wide repercussions having a child does? Running is good for your health, same for sports, eating is necessary, having friends is not in itself dangerous, and same for playing outside. Why do kids do all these? Because they inherently require no responsibility from the kid that cannot be supervised by parents/teachers. Sports have regulations too, and rules to make it safe. Smoking on the other hand is inherently a health damage, driving requires responsibility for your acts (accidents are far too common among teenagers), same for drinking (it impairs your judgement and your reaction speed). How fun do you think it is to lose someone in a car accident that you caused? To have a cancer? Have you thought these through?
And you didn't reply to my other questions either.

Firstly, the misuse or stuipidity thing applys to adults as well. imho teenagers and adults r both terrible with sex but one is unlucky enough to have it being illegal. so i just find it hypocritical.

secondly , i,m not writting an essay or CV 4 a job, so as long as it is understandable there is no need 4 100% spelling. and your examples r pretty lame and non-important and as u should know, spelling has no bearing on a person,s intellectual capacity.

thirdly...well i guess i cant argue with your third point, makes complete sense because it has consequences 4 other ppl aside from the individual.

and pray tell what were the other questions?

[War Angel]

secondly , i,m not writting an essay or CV 4 a job, so as long as it is understandable there is no need 4 100% spelling. and your examples r pretty lame and non-important and as u should know, spelling has no bearing on a person,s intellectual capacity.

No, you're not writing an essay, and spelling mistakes are allowed. However, tpyiung liek dis shows of great disrespect to the ones you're addressing your posts to. It is just barely understandable (not to mention you don't even fully write simple words like 'you', 'are', etc), and frankly, seems like you've typed everything with your nose, and don't care much if your posts are comprehended or not. And yes, spelling properly *is* a sign of intelligence, while it's true that mis-spelling is not always a sign of stupidity and can also be caused by dyslexia. However, most of the time, it's carelessness.

As for the case in hand - I maintain my previous point - teen-agers are idiots, generally. They cannot understand the idea of parenthood, nor take full responsibilty for their actions. If I had anything to say about it, I wouldn't let anyone under the age of 17 drive, either.

[aeris2001x2]

yes but my posts are understandable and i dont *tpyi liek dis*, its odd things like *person,s* and the Like and things like that emanate no feeling of disrespect to anyone. your dealing in a hyperthetical situation which does not apply to me. even when my posts lack coherence (like in eyes on each other topics i do) they are still easily understandable.

stop making out my posts are completly inane babble in an attempt to make my views lack validity. if you want to do that, do it like Endless did to one of my points...

*Because the other activities you mentioned don't have the wide repercussions having a child does? Running is good for your health, same for sports, eating is necessary, having friends is not in itself dangerous, and same for playing outside. Why do kids do all these? Because they inherently require no responsibility from the kid that cannot be supervised by parents/teachers. Sports have regulations too, and rules to make it safe. Smoking on the other hand is inherently a health damage, driving requires responsibility for your acts (accidents are far too common among teenagers), same for drinking (it impairs your judgement and your reaction speed). How fun do you think it is to lose someone in a car accident that you caused? To have a cancer? Have you thought these through?*

and argue against it through the vehicle of reason, not an insinuation of stuipdity.

[Endless]

and pray tell what were the other questions?

Explain to me how having a kid when you're 14 makes you a "responsible adult"? Are you ready to get a job? Is your education finished? Can you live on your own? Pay a rent? Pay the child's care? The food? The clothes? Medication?

[aeris2001x2]

i dont recall saying anything about having a kid at 14 making u a responsible adult. please can u quote where i said that.

[TasteyPies]

Hold on, This is a strapping 14 year old young man, if he didn't agree with what his teacher was doing, couldn't he have punched her silly untill she stopped?

[Endless]

let us teenagers learn our lessons about sex as teenagers so we can become more responsible adult ppl with such experiences.

[aeris2001x2]

i,m still waiting 4 the quote Endless. the quote involving having kids at 14...