Your wisdom is infinite.Originally Posted by noname
Yeah, when most of the media is liberal.
Your wisdom is infinite.Yeah, when most of the media is liberal.
Ok, I can conceed that. Now it's time for me to make the world see that they're not documentaries
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Well, isn't that obvious when you watch the movie? I mean, I like it, but hell, it's not a documentary. Well, it has some documentary aspects, but thats obvious, every opinion is based on a series of facts (exagerated or not) that must be exposed to get the message clear. But it is an opinion.Ok, I can conceed that. Now it's time for me to make the world see that they're not documentaries
Michael Moore eh. Genius. The man is a genius. But as much he is a genius he is a hypocrite. He claims to despise the gun laws of America. Yet he is a life time member of your NRA. He claims that all white men are biggots. But what's that... he is white. He has very strong opinions but I know alot of people who are like that. but he's a genius because the way he argues his strange points of veiw instantly makes most people turn over to his way of thinking.
maybe you all disagree with my opinions, maybe you hate me for them. Maybe every last one of you is yelling at the computer screen going NO I DON'T. Well maybe I don't care
Well Well Well, I seem to have stirred the pot a bit.
Firstly, Moore admits to being biased. Secondly, Moore admits to putting the facts in his favor. Thirdly, If I didnt agree with Moore I would not hate him, I agree with him on only half of the issues...I disagree with everything Hitler did, but that man was without a doubt, a genius. He did wonders for his country, he just got a bit greedy....and killed a bunch of people unnecessarily....you know....
Refer to Bio. Or Dio. Haha. Wit. Take THAT.
I have mixed feelings on Michael Moore. On one hand, I agree with many of his views and respect his ability to make documentaries. (I'm using the label "documentary" for simplicity's sake.) On the other hand, it's completely true that he doesn't even attempt to be fair in his documentaries. I also think he comes off as a bit of a lunatic in interviews and such. When he's put on the spot, I don't think he does a very good job of defending himself sometimes.
So I guess to answer the question, I don't think he's a bastard at all, but I don't think he's a genius. He's very good at presenting facts and making implications based on those facts that may or may not be true. He's also very good at manipulating emotions through his works. One minute you're laughing, the next minute you're near tears. Whether you like it or not, that's talent.
I'm just glad he can now afford his eating habits. A real boost to the economy. Good guy but not intellectually solid. He is the poster boy for a western-trying-to-be-European ideology that often hurts its own cause. An in a sense he is NOT a LIBERAL in the dictionary sense.
Lastly, he is an entertainer not a journalist. Like the X-men, he is the next step in the evolution of sensationalist American news media.(Limbaugh, Coulter, Al Franken, etc.)
Smile even though its breaking
Yes it's obvious. My entire problem with him stemmed from the idea that I was under the impression he considered himself to be making documentaries. That's why I was harping along with the "journalistic integrity" bit. If Moore considers his films them opinion pieces, then I'm pretty indifferent. However, I still won't consider it an informative film, and I don't think anyone else should.
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Well, consider them half informative. They tell half truths. Basically, they tell the truth but exaggerate it greately, making the truth not to be...much truth. The basic idea is still there. For example, the numbers in Bowling for Columbine, when he talks about gun deaths, are exaggerated, as he only used the ones for assasination on the other countries and included both accidents an assasination in USA. This made USA look like it had a lot more deaths, but:
1. USA is a larger country, with more people
2. As said, the numbers were inflated on one side
However...relatively, still more death by guns occur in USA than in other western nations. OK, maybe the abyss is not as large at it seems in the movie, but the fact is still there.
So yeah, sit down and keep in mind he will say half truths. And well, try to avoid the sensationalistic bits in the movie, cause you know, I personally thing the whole "Wonderful World" was ironical, but with quite a lack of taste, I think. However, I liked Bowling for Columbine, I liked it a lot, even when I realised some parts made me want to kill Moore, generally I thought the movie raised many interesting points, and it had it's funny moments.
But yeah, definately there are more objective sources of information.
Hehe, that was a hilarious picture Nait, I especially love the "insinuates Iraqi civilians dont like to be killed, hahahaha. Very nice work, bravo.
Moore is passionate about what he stands for. He gets very emotional and into what he is defending or saying. You or I, would also come off as a lunatic, if you were interviewing someone and you disagreed with everything they did which almost made you so angry at the lack of care they have for your views, when you feel you are SO right. Its human nature to come off almost crazy when youre speaking on something that is so emotionally heavy on your heart.
Refer to Bio. Or Dio. Haha. Wit. Take THAT.
I like the Ashcroft bit, myself.
someday my band and I will re-do that song.I like the Ashcroft bit, myself.
Yeah, could be. It's easy for me to criticize, since my experience on national television is rather limited. :P
That is absolutely hysterical.
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