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    Quote Originally Posted by princeofdarknez
    And what's the world-creator-dudes (e.g. (OMG THIS MEANS EXAMPLUS GRATUS) BoB and pr00t) stance on multi-national corporations? Or just regular ones? I know I asked this question in another thread, but I'm eager to know the answer.

    I am, as you can see, not BoB or Proto, but here's a suggestion:

    You are a citizen of a certain state, I'd say - corporations need contracts, and contracts aren't self-promoting, you need government for that. You could be a citizen under a state, but have stuff in other states, like people working for you. Or something like that. Same for secret cults and stuff, and religions. *_*

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    Aye, it's possible, as Nait put it there, but corporations didn't really exist in those times as nobody had that kind of money for investments, nobody had a fast enough means of travel (which would need to be done on a regular basis so money - or whatever it is that you use - could be sorted out, as you'd need to pay your workers and you'd need to have them move profits to yourself. Chances are they'd tell you to bugger off.

    I imagine the only corporations of any sorts would be sea-trade...? Rather than have people working for you, you would just put yourself at the 'top of the food chain' or whatever - you'd be the leading supplier to various places, they would pay you for what they get from you, and they would sell what they get for whatever profit they like. The more people you sell to, the more money you'd make. Rather than having employees in various countries, you would merely have customers/clients. You'd have to be careful with the governments of each client though. I don't think corporations would be realistic in these times for these reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loony BoB
    Aye, it's possible, as Nait put it there, but corporations didn't really exist in those times as nobody had that kind of money for investments, nobody had a fast enough means of travel (which would need to be done on a regular basis so money - or whatever it is that you use - could be sorted out, as you'd need to pay your workers and you'd need to have them move profits to yourself. Chances are they'd tell you to bugger off.

    I imagine the only corporations of any sorts would be sea-trade...? Rather than have people working for you, you would just put yourself at the 'top of the food chain' or whatever - you'd be the leading supplier to various places, they would pay you for what they get from you, and they would sell what they get for whatever profit they like. The more people you sell to, the more money you'd make. Rather than having employees in various countries, you would merely have customers/clients. You'd have to be careful with the governments of each client though. I don't think corporations would be realistic in these times for these reasons.
    True dat. Religions and such fit the role of the Big Corporations better in a low-tech scenario.

    The closest I can think of a low-tech international corporation is the East Indies something something something, which was almost a nation unto itself.

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    Presumably, our universe would start out operating under a feudal system, or something similar. In this case, there would be no corporations of any sort. Families or communities might specialize in a certain trade, but large-scale companies wouldn't exist.

    Personally, I'm opposed to the idea of a business world, but if we do choose to go along that path, it could work something like this:

    Each nation would have dedicated settlements for each branch of industry (such as mining or arms manufacture). These settlements would provide their nation with items, and expand their operations into other states should the oppurtunity arise. As times change, and the business world develops, these industries could be taken over by an individual or group, who would then oversee any decisions involving that particular corporation.

    As an example, suppose a human community were established, with the purpose of creating weaponry for their nation. This settlement soon became the chief source of weaponry in the local area, perhaps the whole region. It would begin exporting its wares to other towns, maybe to allied nations. Eventually, one of the weapons makers is able to buy the other businesses, becoming the main supplier of arms in his town (and therefore the entire nation). He now owns his own company, and can choose to establish further factories in other states (with their permission) to expand his empire.

    In some cases, two businesses might exist within a single nation, in which case they could either merge their assets or compete for the custom of their nation.

    Of course, this would all happen over a long period of time. No businesses would develop for hundreds of years, and depending on how exactly BoB and Prot want this world to work, it could turn out that none develop at all. It might be a better idea to have the towns stay as just towns, and not muck around with company expansion etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultima Shadow
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    So you only want 1 vote?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baloki
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    Actually, I won't vote for any of them. It's just something I say to make stupid people think they should vote for me. It was all a lie....... ops, shouldn't have said that.
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    I see. Yes, the East India Tea Company was quite an example. It seems that being in possession of natural resources would be the only way to start up a well-oiled company from scratch, and supplying that for money. And you're right, it would depend on the governments' stances towards capitalism, such as whether they would just seize all assets and nationalize them, or let them be privatized. *watches*

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    My cousin stole my Civ CDs when she fled to California last week. However as this world seems to allow magic it might be amusing to add that aspect to rule.

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    Okay, all this is closed up now. Voting will begin in The Leader Board thread.
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    (psst shouldn't you or pr00t close it then? O_o)

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