Originally Posted by My Mate Nats
I agree that such games should most certainly not be sold to young kids.. I'd say 18 is a bit old, but 15 or 16 seems reasonable. However... imagine you're a sales-person, and a 12 year-old wants to spend a few dozen bucks/pounds on that computer game... would you REALLY say no?
When fighting monsters, be wary not to become one yourself... when gazing into the abyss, bear in mind that the abyss also gazes into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
The rightful owner of this Ciddie can kiss my arse! :P
Of course they wouldn't say no. But this is rediclous, another game gets blamed for a murder, its so stupid.
video games don't cause people to kill, parents who never taught their children that it is just entertainment should be blamed, but being greedy they find something else to blame it on so they go go be free and happy with themselves, people like that make me sick.
Well, it's most certainly not the cause for murder (I hope no-one is stupid enough to claim that..), as the cause is the murderer's mental and emtional screwy-ness. However... such games do provide valuable information and skill, in the arts of killing. Shooters imporove your shooting abilities, not to mention all the information provided by these games (visual and verbal instructions, etc). It's like a military training software.
When fighting monsters, be wary not to become one yourself... when gazing into the abyss, bear in mind that the abyss also gazes into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
The rightful owner of this Ciddie can kiss my arse! :P
The kid must have been outta his mind anyways. I dont see any link with this and the video game, except maybe he stole and idea... i dont know what weapons are available in manhunt, so i dont know. Even if he did steal an idea, i dont think u can blame the rating board, or Rockstar entertainment, u must blame the person responsible which is the guy who murdered another human being.
The rating system is important for knowing what kind of game ur buying and what-not, but thats all its good for in my opinion. Do think the fact that they wont sell me Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, because i'm 18 is going to keep me from getting that game?
If u said yes, then ur sadly mistaken. I have friends over 18 who, if i provide them with the money will gladly buy it for me.
You know, in Japan video-games are more widely available than the US i'm sure, but there are a ton, less violent crimes in Japan and Canada, which both get the same kinda violent video games we get. So i think that we gotta stop blaming the video games.
There will always be psychos, thats just the way of the world. To say that if this game had never come out, then that boy would still be alive is total fallacy.
Also japan has a lot more risque games, yet because they know its just entertainment they do just fine
Just like guns, they don't kill people. PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE.
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As for teh topic I stand firmly on my earlier beileif
They should treat those kinds of games like porn. Make it completely illegal for kids to buy them, and throw anyone in jail who sells or gives it to kids. But if an adult likes to murder people on a computer screen, he should be allowed. Children and teenagers often aren't mature enough to draw a solid line between reality and fantasy.
Originally Posted by Dr Unne
I think teenagers are able to draw the solid line between fantasy and reality. All my friends play, violent shoot-um-up video games, but none of them including myself has ever killed/plotted to kill anyone(*I'm only 16*).
I think teens of today have a very clear distinction fantasy, and reality.
The rule of genetics/society/childhood-memories is the more people u have in the world the more psychos u have. Out of every how ever many 1000 people there are going to be 1-2 nuts mixed in there. Thats pretty much all there is to it. Some are born nuts, some go crazy, others lose it for a few crucial moments. We shouldnt blame societies short-comings on video games.
I think as a competent 15-16 yr old. in the U.S. today, u should have the capacity, to differenciate, fantasy from reality. And understand right/wrong and the consequences of ur actions. If u cant do it by then, then it'll be another 10-20 years before u start to get it!
I'd have to agree that the chance is slim that the game manhunt was the cause of the murder. However I don't think that we can ever be 100% sure of that. Many factors could have influenced it so I don't think it would be the only cause though. I guess what I'm getting at is that I see a lot where some people will steal quotes from movies or lyrics from songs and use them as there own. Does that have anything to do with copying the murders in a game? probably not. I just think that a lot of people's brains these days do not funtion correctly and are influenced too easily by a group or by media and such.
I seriously got this the first time I tried it.
From "Final Fantasy 7"
What Video Game Villain Are You?
Its ridiculous to think that video games cause violence. I've played Doom and Wolfenstein etc. since I was 6, and I'm quite well adjusted, I'm a bit of a loner, but that's it, nothing further.
Anyway. About the game. I couldn't stand it. I nearly vomited when I saw the violence in it. :/
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My friend Jeff loves the game. He plays it all day nad he's not one to play video games besides Tony Hawk or Jet motto.
The game may have played some role in the decision that kid made to murder the other one, but you must see that it's not the only factor involved.
These parents are blaming the game like it warped this kid. There was obviously something wrong with the kid in the first place -- Either his parents hadn't done their job bringing him up correctly, or he was mentally unstable. If the latter is the case, that should have been caught early, and he should have had help.
The article mentioned he used a hammer to brutalize the victim, but it also mentioned stabbing. Why were weapons available to this kid? That's another issue being over looked.
I don't think video games are the cause of this problem. I'm sure they may play some role, but I don't believe it to be any different than if he were watching a bloody movie, or reading a book concerning the same stuff.
There's this kind of low-brow crap in every medium I can think of. It just happened to be this kid was into Video Games, instead of reading.