The Ultimate Super Boss

[Jolts]

It can with Nemesis, I don't see why not with Penance. Nemesis uses that move, right? The one that looks like Nova (Kimahri's strongest blue magic limit).

[aeris2001x2]

yeah true, but Dark Yojimbo Zanmato and Dark Magus Sisters Delta Attack cant be auto lifed. so its possible that penance cant be either. ahh Judgement Day is the best looking move i have ever seen though. its almost worth dying from it . i think Nemesis uses Armageddon.

but yeah, the mp thing is a bitch 2 oh, and after auto life u would only have 3 turns before he attacks ago, so its quite possible 2 get bashed again by judgement day or mega gravitons etc

[Ultima Shadow]

It can with Nemesis, I don't see why not with Penance. Nemesis uses that move, right? The one that looks like Nova (Kimahri's strongest blue magic limit).

Nemesis uses Armagedon. Penance uses Judgement day. They'r completely different.

[Jolts]

Wouldn't know (damn SquEnix making changes to their games ). Well, I knew Nemesis used something, but I couldn't remember the name, and if I had the option to fight Penance, then I'd know they aren't the same, but I can't (still angry ).

[aeris2001x2]

lol. aint it funny how weak nemesis is compared to Penance. yet in many ways, Nemesis has a higher attack power. i think Penance shows thst brute strength is not the most important feature for super bosses.

oh well Jolts. i guess it makes up for UK not getting ff Tactics

[Jolts]

Making up nothing. They only do that because they feel like showing off their capabilities. They couldn't care less about US, UK, or any other country that isn't Japan (and they may not even care about parts of Japan).
Not a proven fact^.

[Ultima Shadow]

lol. aint it funny how weak nemesis is compared to Penance. yet in many ways, Nemesis has a higher attack power. i think Penance shows thst brute strength is not the most important feature for super bosses.

Well, it have already been shown. Omega Weapon in FFVIII used the most powerfull monster/boss attacks in the whole game. He could do 9998 dammage to all your characters in 1 move with Megido Flame and even more dammage with Terra Break. And still he was nothing but an easy ass. :rolleyes2

Oh, and just a side note: Ultima Weapon in FFVIII (level100) have higher stats than Omega Weapon. Omega only have higher HP and vit (whitch can be reduced to 0 with meltdown anyway.) Ultima Weapons speed is almost twice Omegas.

Damn, I want Tactics...

[aeris2001x2]

yeah, ultima is just so much greater then omega ant. they should re release ffVIII with ultima hp at 1 million. a truely worthy foe.

[Jolts]

I think it'd be nifty if the boss is invinsible to all attacks except the physical attack one one certain weapon. To make it even worse, you would have to steal said weapon from the boss itself, then equip during battle (like you can in FFX). To make it even worse than that, the weapon could be for a random character, so you'd never know who to train (or train them all). Then they could also make it like that one place in FFIX, where the lower your attack stat, the more damage you do (most people are pumped near the end of a game, which is when you would be most likly to fight a super boss).

Does anybody like this idea?
(I'm quoting myself...isn't that a sign of loonacy? )

[Ultima Shadow]

yeah, ultima is just so much greater then omega ant. they should re release ffVIII with ultima hp at 1 million. a truely worthy foe.

And permanent triple, migthyguard + Meltdown instead of Quake. I mean, 1 meltdown on each of your characters and then his normal pshycical attacks could kill you in 1 or 2 hits.

Does anybody like this idea?
(I'm quoting myself...isn't that a sign of loonacy? )

Well, I would like a super boss that you should NOT only attack with pshycical attacks or limmitbreaks but also with different types of magic. Like Phantom in KH. Why not steal a key-item in the battle that you have to use on the boss instead of stealing weapons? FFIV spoiler: (SPOILER)Like the crystal in FFIV that you use on Zeromus.

[aeris2001x2]

Does anybody like this idea?
(I'm quoting myself...isn't that a sign of loonacy? )

i think your idea is insane...i like it . that could well be harder then penance, and it would be thanks to its tactics, not silly super powerful moves.

hey ultima, i think the ultima weapon in ffXII should be like u suggest ed

[Jolts]

Even worse thing to add (to my idea) would be to make it like a super boss in The Legend Of Legaia, where your entire party is permanently drained of all MP, forcing you to resort to items for healing.

[Ultima Shadow]

Well, Megaelexirs have always been the best way to heal your characters anyway. As I said I think you should NEED to use magic since there have NEVER been a super boss that you should use elemental magics to beat in a FF so far.

[aeris2001x2]

well, not elemental, but Jumbo Flan required magic to beat. though it might not have been immune to Aeon overdrives i cant remember.

is it not better if super bosses absorb elemental attacks?

i would like a tournment in an FF game in which u can get drawn against many diff super bosses. and it would be cool if the hardest super boss can summon lesser super bosses at will to help, and allow the super boss some limit break counter *materia* of sum kind. that way it will counter limit breaks with 20 ultimas . oh and max defense, all status causing attacks and millions of hp has become as standard now.

[Ultima Shadow]

is it not better if super bosses absorb elemental attacks?

I actually think it isn't. I think it would be more fun if the boss changed style durin battle. Like... first, you can only dammage it with fire spells, then it changes to ice, water, wind, earth, thunder and holy. THEN it's open for all attacks for some rounds... and then you have to use the elemental spells on it again. If the boss absorb ALL elements it will only mean that you won't use elemental attacks on it.