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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Unne
    [qq=Dingo Jellybean]You misunderstood what the law stated. It says that the USOC and IOC has exclusive, but limited, rights to the word "olympics." It means that the word "olympics" cannot be used for any political propaganda whatsoever and cannot be used to endorse any product of any kind without permission of the USOC. You can still use the word "olympics" in public speaking, just as long as it has no endorsement affiliation attached to it...be it coporate or political.[/qq]

    That last comment of mine was hyperbolic.
    What do you mean by hyperbolic?

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    Of or relating to hyperbole. Hyperbole meaning exaggeration to prove a point. In this case the point being that I find the fact that people can't mention the Olympics in political ads to be silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Unne
    Of or relating to hyperbole. Hyperbole meaning exaggeration to prove a point. In this case the point being that I find the fact that people can't mention the Olympics in political ads to be silly.
    Well, (the first I thought) hyperbolic relates to a hyperbole(the math term). That's where I got you confused.

    But I side with the Iraqi athletes who want the ad banned. They're the ones being mentioned and have a right to voice their opinion...but I don't believe any political party has the right to use the olympics to boost their campaign.

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    And yes, USOC and Olympics is synonymous. USOC = United States Olympic Committee.
    United States, and Commitee. The Olympic games are universal, and don't belong to any commitee, of any kind. Mind you - that person I quoted earlier, was Norwegian, not American. So, it's not some Americans vs. Americans thing, where it's an internal decision regarding their own little affairs. This is someone from the outside, trying to interferre with American political intrigues. Dunno 'bout you, but that smells funny to me.

    Anyway, law or not, it seems stupid and baseless to me. I should be able to use the word 'Olympics' in whatever connotation I desire, just like the word 'sun', 'Napoleon', or 'Hypocrites Who Twist Things and Facts To Fit Their Ideals'.

    Also - can the USA but the Olympic trademark, should they desire to? Or at least, the right to use in a certain context?
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    Quote Originally Posted by War Angel
    United States, and Commitee. The Olympic games are universal, and don't belong to any commitee, of any kind. Mind you - that person I quoted earlier, was Norwegian, not American. So, it's not some Americans vs. Americans thing, where it's an internal decision regarding their own little affairs. This is someone from the outside, trying to interferre with American political intrigues. Dunno 'bout you, but that smells funny to me.

    Anyway, law or not, it seems stupid and baseless to me. I should be able to use the word 'Olympics' in whatever connotation I desire, just like the word 'sun', 'Napoleon', or 'Hypocrites Who Twist Things and Facts To Fit Their Ideals'.

    Also - can the USA but the Olympic trademark, should they desire to? Or at least, the right to use in a certain context?
    The olympic games refer to everyone, yes, but USOC and Olympics is synonymous, I didn't understand what you were trying to do by not bolding the word "olympic" in USOC.

    Again, I think some people don't fully understand what the law to the word "olympic" means. You are welcomed to use the word "olympic" in any form of speech as long as it has no political affiliation. That's why the word olympic can't be used here.

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    Again, I think some people don't fully understand what the law to the word "olympic" means. You are welcomed to use the word "olympic" in any form of speech as long as it has no political affiliation. That's why the word olympic can't be used here.
    And that's what I don't agree with. How is the word 'Olympics' different then 'sun' or 'India'? I can use those in any context, and with any affiliation I want. If the Olympics aren't owned, and are not a trademark, who's to say when I can use that word, and when not? Try to set your hatred for Bush aside for a moment - do you really feel this is right, and just?
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    Quote Originally Posted by War Angel
    And that's what I don't agree with. How is the word 'Olympics' different then 'sun' or 'India'? I can use those in any context, and with any affiliation I want. If the Olympics aren't owned, and are not a trademark, who's to say when I can use that word, and when not? Try to set your hatred for Bush aside for a moment - do you really feel this is right, and just?
    I don't hate Bush, so don't assume.

    If Kerry were to use the word "Olympics" in his campaign, I'd complain just as well. Or if Nader, doesn't matter. No political party has the right to "olympics" to boost their campaign.

    You still don't understand what I'm trying to say. I'm only saying what the law says about the matter, my opinions come after. The word olympics is not to be affiliated with a political party because it gives the impression that the USOC is with a certain political party. The article stated that in 1999, the word "olympic" and derivations of it are to be used by the USOC and IOC for commercial purposes and cannot have any political affiliations with it. So don't assume I'm writing this so that the Democrats can win...that's ridiculous. You see the article yourself, re-read it and you'll see what I'm saying is the law.

    As for my opinion, I agree. Iraqi athletes even protest it. When you involve a sport with a political party(such as the olympics), it shows that the sport is party-favored. If that were the case, you'd have two different set of US athletes forming different USOC's. That's like campaigning and saying how basketball is a "democratic-party" way of life. You can't do that because it would be ridiculous.

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