One and the same.
One and the same.
Ironically enough, as someone who's made an entry, I kinda agree with Plushiebunny. I seem to remember doing a redesign a while back that wasn't really a redesign, but just adding a bar underneath the banner image that contained links to the individual game sections because of the poor navigation on the site, but Cid decided against it, because he didn't want it to "look like every other FF site out there." I fail to see the difference between now and then =P
I agree that the layout shouldn't be changed too much, but I do think that improvements need to be made to the site (if we can figure out how to get them to work well) as there are certain aspects of our site that are not browser friendly, along with added features rather than layout changes. I'll talk to Baloki but we should be able to submit at least the link to the site revamp we're working on, including an entirely new news program which allows us for future upgrades as well as easy template changes / manual improvements as it's MySQL based. We also have a third member who has contributed to our design image-wise.
Bow before the mighty Javoo!
I should appear online then >.> <.<Originally Posted by Loony BoB
A combined effort by BoB and Baloki. With the help of an old friend who made half of the images a long time ago.
Bow before the mighty Javoo!
zee coding, it burns, IT BURNS!!!! *.*
=Greatness.Originally Posted by Loony BoB
Did it load fast for you guys? I've got all the images cached so I'm not sure on how well it goes for a 56k person for the first time or anything. I think it loads pretty well though, given the increase in images.
The changes we made:
1) Obviously there's the images. New images for headers of sections and also images behind the various sections.
2) Java based menu - this allows anyone to get to any page without having to click through one, two or even three other pages - a huge help to people with slow connections.
3) Improved news system, which not only allows us to add categories (the category changes the image to be displayed), but it's also MySQL based which means you can modify it, add new fields etc. with ease. It's also a new freeware program which had it's last update just four days ago, so unlike Newspro, it's not ancient and it's still being worked on to this day. I actually had the news program fully set up on my server just to make sure it worked.I'm hoping to work this system so we can set up an RSS with it, that would mean out news reporters would no longer be required to cross-post entries into our EoFF News LiveJournal.
4) Toplinks (which could be removed if neccessary) to various parts of the site. This allows users to access the forums etc. from any area of the site.
5) Although not new, I suppose I should mention that it's SHTML - we can convert this to php if needed, which would allow for possible forum integration on the frontsite (although this would require hacking the forums, something we've been able to avoid so far). Nicely coded by Baloki, too.
6) Most importantly in my eyes, it's not a massive difference. This means that people who already visit the site won't be put off by the change, it will remain easy to navigate (in fact, it should remain easier to navigate) and it remains true to EoFF and what I believe to be a simple yet effective layout that needs no changes as simple and effective is exactly what it should be.
Also, the coding is by Baloki and we are able to create more of the same type of images you see on the page. This means that we won't be relying on people who are no longer with us to recreate images just to have them look 'not quite right'.
EDIT: Regarding the 'old' stuff, that's due to our long-gone silent partner who created some of the images you see on the right and also the banner. We, er, removed the 'Gamesquad' bit.If you're wondering why the FF's don't go beyond FFIX, it's because poor Baloki hand-coded the lists you see there and couldn't be arsed completing the list entirely (and I don't blame him!).
Last edited by Loony BoB; 09-05-2004 at 06:53 PM.
Bow before the mighty Javoo!
Very much so, then again I'm using cable. I actually enjoy your layout more so than the one I made; good show. The only thing I'd say is fix the css for the borders surrounding the links, since they don't show up as you'd like them to in mozilla. Other than that it’s good.Originally Posted by Loony BoB
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I'm all for shoving a .php ending on it, PHP is much more reliable and stable in Mozzilla/Firefox and Oprea when it comes to including files. Personal opinion though
What was the other thingOh yes, what do you mean resizing the borders? I've got it running in Firefox and it seems fine to me, unless you mean the text getting very close to the border, but that can't be helped at the current time. Although I will try and fix it by reducing some image sizes
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Oooo, it looks great. Its uberspifferiffitastic!!!Originally Posted by Loony BoB
http://www.ffward.net/ieborder.jpg
http://www.ffward.net/mozborder.jpg
Not really all that big of a deal.
xD, nothing I can do, sorry mateOriginally Posted by Sean
Thanks for bringing it up though
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