Not based on lies but only on suppositions...
Not based on lies but only on suppositions...
Religion is based on faithOriginally Posted by Divinity
In faith of what if nothing us prove... how do I know that God exist? Can i have faith in one thing that I don't know if it exists?
You can't have faith in something that you don't believe exists.
You can't have faith in something that you don't believe or / You can't have faith in something that you don't know if it exists? Is this what you are trying to say?
of course you can. thats why its faith. believing in something completely while others don't. prove aliens exist. you haven't. but do some still believe in them while others don't?of course!
religion is a natural human instinct. voltaire once said if there wasn't a god, mankind would need to create one, or something along those lines. i think without a supernatural being watching over us, most humans would be sacred of the fact that everything won't turn out "alright" and that we could destroy the world in an instant. god is sort of a "comfort zone" in the sense that no matter how much wrong we do, there's still a way to find complete happiness.
overall:humans subconciously are scared of their own power, so we've created a "supervisor" in a sense to watch over us and make sure everythings ok to give us comfort.
if ive offended ne1 im sorry, im catholic, but when i say "we've created", im making a point 2wards those that aren't.
sorry for the "preaching" lol, i have nothing 2 do this early in the morning
What I meant was if you don't believe yourself that something exsists, how can you possibly have faith in it?
The Church gets the Vatican to itself because for a great length of time Pope was a secular as well as a religious role, and the Pope was the ruler of a large portion of Italy. The Papal states were overrun in the 1870s by the fledgling state of Italy, the Pope claimed 'prisoner' status and lobbied for international recognition and pressure on Italy to give back Rome. Eventually, the Italian government gave them the immediate vicinity of St. Peter's Square and the area surrounded by the old wall of the Pope's own lands. To say they claim a right to Rome because of forged documents is akin to saying Elizabeth II claims a right to Britain because William the Conqueror said Edward the Confessor had named him his successor. These things are thousands of years olds. The Pope claims a right to the Vatican because he always owned it. That he got it back is just a tribute to the political importance of Religion to governments in an unsteady position (in this case, the Italian fascists).This is something interesting I've recently found out. Why, exactly, does the Church get this sector of Rome for itself? HMMM???
Considering that the purpose of schools is to educate, I've always felt that at least cursory Religious Education might even have a place in countries with seperation of church and state. Ignorance is never a good thing, and when it comes to ignorance about other religions it can often breed bigotry and ill informed, ill advised certainty on their evils. As evinced in this thread. If people aren't going to be taught this stuff, or at least read, then what can you expect.wish they taught me religion in school cause then i could have them all fired.
If you had a class like that, fundies would request their children taken out of it. Someone in my school got out of reading The Odyssey because he decided it violated the first commandment or some such.
I dont know where you live but in america it is against the law. Or some sort of education act. A stone copy of the ten commandments was taken out of the supreme court building a year or so ago.Knowing what the Vatican is has little to do with religious studies. It's common knowledge, something every todder knows. Also - why would they be fired, if they taught you something? Religion is a cool subject. Ignorance however... seems to be something you like to endorse.
Not if you're not endorsing any religion. A comparing world religions type class would be completely kosher.
For example
Way back when in 6th grade we learned about about christianity, judaism, islam, and hinduism. We learned about their history not about any of there beliefs. How they formed and stuff.
Actually, that was a court building in Alabama.
Signature by rubah. I think.
Then how is learning that the Vatican is it's own country and why against the law? That's not endorsing anything. I fully agree with Efli, and I wish we had world religion classes when I was in high school, just informative ones, not ones that endorse anything.
I don't really know when I learned about the Vatican...it seems like I've just always known about it or something
Also, we have a World Religions class in the Ontario high school curriculum, and while I haven't taken it, it's pretty much what people are calling for here - unbiased (well, as much as they can, I think...it would also depend on the teacher of course) information about many different religions.
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