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    As most of you know, Nathan and his group at http://www.opcoder.com worked tirelessly for months and months of unpaid work, to produce a fan-game promoting the game we all know and love, Chrono Trigger, in 3d. The group was going to release this game as a free download, making the project completly absent of financial or personal gain for the makers. These guys did everything they did, just because they simply loved Chrono Trigger.

    Square-Enix recently issued a cease and desist order, forcing them to abandon the project. Why? Because Square-Enix says that this game would penalize sales of Chrono Trigger...

    This remake project was no different from a kid drawing a picture of Crono from out of the Chrono Trigger manual. It was a big, impressive, piece of fan artwork. If Square-Enix is going to make this poor decision, they might as well go after everybody drawing Sqaure-Enix characters because they liked them too. They might as well go after all the online comics that used the titles of their games, or used scenes out of their games. They might as well take down this website and forum while they're at it. This was a completely B.S. decision on Square-Enix's part. This project was an honor to them, and they killed it.

    The grave of the magnificent project is here: http://www.opcoder.com/projects/chrono

    As a gift to the fan support they received, they finished up the trailer and released a few more images. This would have been spectacular. Well, I guess we all learn a good lesson today. If you like something so much you want to show it, don't. If you do, you'll be shut down and penalized for it.

    This is the first thing Square has ever done that has really rubbed me the wrong way, it's safe to say, I am furious at them.
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    Yeah, I'm pretty pissed off at SE for that. It's not like they make major profits from Chrono Trigger any more other than with FF: Anthologies, which last I heard wasn't too easy to find. It's not my first disapointment in SE, I certainly get a more negative vibe from them recently.

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    Hmm, I guess not too many people care.

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    Yeah, that seems pretty stupid of them. It's really just like creating a fan site...I guess it's a possibility that they didn't want the project to be confused with something of their own, or were afraid the guys would try to sell it...but SquareEnix could have made a better choice. Damn the media world....

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    I can understand why they did it. Remember, they're a company, and therefore profit motivated. They don't like losing money. Why go out and buy Chrono Trigger when you can download it? CT is still available for sale new as part of FF Chronicles on the greatest hits series.

    I'm not saying I agree, but I understand why they did it.

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    It wasn't a remake of the game, it was a resurrection of the game via a 10 scene demo only.

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    You're right, that does suck.

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    That's too bad the game looks great, though.



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    I heard about that and was pretty excited. I've always loved Chrono Trigger since I lpayed it and the Idea of it fully 3D (Like the idea of FF1-6 being fully 3d) made my very hppy. Oh well, maybe we'll get lucky and Square will steal the idea and run with it.
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    They had nothing to stand on. The project was clearly infringing on Squeenix's intellectual property, and they HAD to issue a cease-and-desist. See, if you don't, it's basically the same as abandoning the copyright in the eyes of US law.

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    Perhaps Square seen it as plagerizing? You do need permission to take stuff. ^__^

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    It is sad...it looks like that project would have been great to have finished.

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    >_>

    Well, ya know, I'm all for CTR... and I can't see anyway at all that it would lose Square any money... only thing I see happening is most people that haven't played the original would play it after seeing how cool it is in 3D...

    Well anyway... I did post about this a few weeks ago... about the legal part of all this... and how we as Square fans could at least try to help the project... but I'm assuming someone here doesn't agree with me, and went and deleted my post >_> or at least that what it looks like, since I can't find it anywere... and I put a lot of effort into that post too, it was probably the most professional thing I've ever written/(had help from a friend xD) =P
    I wonder if it was because I said the word boycott?:rolleyes2

    Seems the Quality of Square's works has gone down hill since the whole Enix merger. >_> Money grubbing bastards...

    I love Square's games... but I am and will continue to BOYCOTT Square-Enix (forever if I have too) in hopes that it might make the slightest influence on Square.
    I'm not saying I won't continue to play and enjoy the old Square games I have... I'm just saying I won't support Square-Enix with my money anymore because of their bad choice in this matter...

    If you have been following CTR and are disapointed with Square, I urge you to boycott SE, or even just send a letter stating your disapointment... heck, why not send several, and get your freinds to do the same! xD

    Oh and those of you that don't know much about CTR... go look at that site, see the pics and watch the trailer!! then cry, yelling "WHY SQUARE, WHY?!"

    Oh, I love Eoff <_<... its just I feel like BOYCOTTING SQUARE!! ^_~/ XD
    For shame Eoff, deleting the post of a fellow Square fan, just cause I don't aprove of Square's decision... >_>

    (xD... at the time i couldn't find my post, my first thought was whole server thing you guys had happening was what deleted it... but then I saw that the server switch(or whatever it was) haden't even happend yet... so don't give me that... it was deleted, and on purpose too, before that server thing... =P I just didn't get around to saying anything cause I was busy posting on other forums on the same topic... as well as events in my own life.)
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    I wont boycott for a small matter like this no matter how good it seemed, But yes, I think square enix has gone downhill very fast from the merger and some on there choices and how they muck the fans about is boycott worthy... so... boycott away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tidus Andronicus
    I can't see anyway at all that it would lose Square any money... only thing I see happening is most people that haven't played the original would play it after seeing how cool it is in 3D...
    Why would someone go out and buy the original when they can get the same thing, with updated graphics, for free? Unless I'm mistaken, this was to be as close to the SNES Chrono Trigger as possible. So there's a way they'd lose cash.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tidus Andronicus
    I'm assuming someone here doesn't agree with me, and went and deleted my post >_> or at least that what it looks like, since I can't find it anywere... and I put a lot of effort into that post too, it was probably the most professional thing I've ever written/(had help from a friend xD) =P
    I wonder if it was because I said the word boycott?:rolleyes2
    Quote Originally Posted by Tidus Andronicus
    Oh, I love Eoff <_<... its just I feel like BOYCOTTING SQUARE!! ^_~/ XD
    For shame Eoff, deleting the post of a fellow Square fan, just cause I don't aprove of Square's decision... >_>
    Quote Originally Posted by Tidus Andronicus
    (xD... at the time i couldn't find my post, my first thought was whole server thing you guys had happening was what deleted it... but then I saw that the server switch(or whatever it was) haden't even happend yet... so don't give me that... it was deleted, and on purpose too, before that server thing... =P I just didn't get around to saying anything cause I was busy posting on other forums on the same topic... as well as events in my own life.)
    Okay, I think we all get it. Your not happy because you can't find your post. Posts get lost al lot of times, for various reasons, rarely because some admin didn't agree with you and wanted to stop it. It could have been, for example, not recieving enough (or any) traffic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tidus Andronicus
    I love Square's games... but I am and will continue to BOYCOTT Square-Enix (forever if I have too) in hopes that it might make the slightest influence on Square.
    I'm not saying I won't continue to play and enjoy the old Square games I have... I'm just saying I won't support Square-Enix with my money anymore because of their bad choice in this matter....
    Okay, have fun missing out.
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