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Thread: Super duper awesome thread about how cool bush is and all who like him. Kery sucks...

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    Not to burst your bubble, but Bush is a very bad president.

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    That is your opinion...and I realy don't feel the same way. So no bubbles have been busted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TasteyPies
    That is your opinion...and I realy don't feel the same way. So no bubbles have been busted.

    I agree. Politics is just a way of thinking, kind of like philosophy.... Nothing personal.


    Go Bush 2004!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TasteyPies
    You people are getting off topic, you aren't talking about how cool bush is.
    He was really cool yesterday, trying to get the latin vote: He said latin culture was cool cause the main virtues were faith in God, caring about the family and love to the country. He is right, they are. But in latin as in the Roman Empire during Augustus, when the pax romana, the moral of the mos maiorum, pietas et fides!

    It was cool, Bush studied lots of latin. Quosque tandem, Dubya, abutiere patientia nostra?

    He even tried to speak Spanish, and he had this awful accent that made him so cute. Awwwwwww

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optium
    You say the people would have no power. You say that the only way
    people would have power is if they resisted, in which they would be
    crushed. This is untrue. With the weapons owned by civilians in this
    country, an army of around 90 million could be armed with handguns or
    better. If Russian tactics of two men, one gun were employed, an army of
    roughly 180 million could be armed. An army this size would be unbeatable
    without the use of nuclear weapons.

    It doesn't really matter though, I'm moving to Canada in a year or so.

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    You're moving to Canada?

    You know that MJ is going to be legal in Alaska, do you not?

    And dude, we already covered the anarchy thing. It's a given that anarchy, revolution and communism are all bad things. America's system is the best there is right now. I friggin' wish that Bush used insanely brutal force now, since everybody hates him already. He should'nt have held back. He should've conquered the Mid-East under the guise of searching for nuklear weapons and we should've stolen all their oil while we were at it.
    It isn't like anybody would have anything meaner to say to Bush than they do now...

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    If revolution was bad, than America itself would be bad, as we had to have a revolution in order to exist in the first place.

    Communism is not bad. People who say that don't know communism. Communism has never worked, because people always abused their power. The communsit ideals are some of the best to ever be thought up. I am not a communist myself, but i have to respect what it really stands for.

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    Since when are revolutions and communism bad? I'll admit that anarchy in
    this current day does not work, but the others have and are working as
    we speak.

    And yes, there are many movements to legalize in Alaska, I've donated
    some money to the Marijuana Policy Project to help them with that.

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    all i can say is o_0 why vote for bush, he is a RETARD, and all the world hates him, if i could id vote for nader but i cant becasue iom an underage, communist, englishman (made by S_A's m8
    I would love to be happy, but unfortunately I'm too busy being awesome and kicking your ass at everything

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optium
    but the others have and are working as
    we speak.
    Where? Cause I'll be moving there.

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    Communism on its own is a failed experiment because as others have said, it all hinges on the people who run the system. In the countries that are still Communist: Cuba, China, North Korea, etc; there is a rapid movement toward a more open market, which goes against Marxist theory. It would seem that a good compromise of free enterprise with government control is becoming the "new" wave of economic policy in this world.

    All I can say about Bush is this: A vote for him is a vote for Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Karl Rove, Tom Ridge, and John Ashcroft which scares the living heck out of me.

    Take care all.

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    Communism is working in many religious orders such as friars. The point of
    communism is that each individual must willingly be a part of the system or
    it will not work.

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    Stop me if I'm wrong, but isn't there no religion in Communism?

    Take care all.

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    Government > People = Communism
    Government < People = Chaos
    Government = People = Democracy

    fo sho

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Captain
    Stop me if I'm wrong, but isn't there no religion in Communism?

    Take care all.
    That's true. But I think that he was comparing Communism to, apparently how some monasteries work. I don't know if this is a true statement or not.

    Actually something I find interesting is that the main communist motto - "from each according to his abillity, to each according to his need" - comes DIRECTLY from the bible.

    Quote Originally Posted by TasteyPies
    Government > People = Communism
    Government < People = Chaos
    Government = People = Democracy

    fo sho
    This is really stupid. Was Louis XIV a communist? How about Napoleon? Hitler?

    In America, the government > people, and we certainly aren't communist. Yes, it is true that in America the government > people, because WE DO NOT HAVE DIRECT REPRESENTATION. America is a REPUBLIC, not a democracy (the founding Father's made it a point not to allow "too much democracy"). Democracy is something more akin to anarchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Captain
    Stop me if I'm wrong, but isn't there no religion in Communism?
    Because Communism can't really be democratic, there has to be something to subdue the populace. Religion has been an excellent tool of communism in the past because it binds to people to certain traditions and mindsets. It prevents radical and liberal thought.
    SO religion is often in Communism, but never freedom of religion. If there's religion, it's the government or it's something powerful and established and inescapable.

    As far as Communism being bad, yes it is.
    It's a wonderful idea, but it doesn't work. People are never going to make Communism work so it's bad. It's a bad idea. It's a bad system. At least, i live in south Florida where Cubans are the majority. They never have anything nice to say about Communism and they've experienced it first hand.

    Think of Commuinism like a top of the line computer... That has a bomb in it.

    It would be good, but it isn't going to work. It's bad.

    And revolution/anarchy is only good wehen there's already a horrible disaster in place. Anarchy is terrible. Countries go bankrupt, people die, places get conquered, lives flip upside down... Anarchy is bad. Generally. Maybe the results are better than what was before, but anarchy is bad because the conditions that caused it were bad.

    So that's bad too. That's my two cents there.


    And I'm voting for G.W. I want to kill arabs and steal their oil. Gas is way too high these days. We should be totalitarian damn it!

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