genre of music?(multiple choice poll)

[Moose Knight]

I still think Metallica is the pinnacle of metal. They are talented, have a diversity of song styles, etc. And when I say "Metallica" I mean up to and included AJFA. I think a lot of the "power metal" bands today don't even compare. I mean, its like these bands play exactly like Manowar, but without any of the things that made them funny or interesting.

Metal from the 80's and early 90's is almost 100% better than anything after that. Play Testament's "New Order" and then hear something by, like, say, Hammerfall or someone. Doesn't even compare.

[Chzn8r]

Now hey... just because Metallica and some other bands said goobye to metal after that "great period" you speak of, or also that a few thrash bands from the 80s (Helloween and Blind Guardian immediately come to mind) evolved into power metal doesn't mean a lot of bands aren't still making great thrash metal (and power metal as a whole shouldn't be discounted either just because a few lame bands like Hammerfall and Stratovarius get all cheesey and repetetive about it). Metal may have gotten its first big and talented acts rolling in the 80s, but just because it left the mainstream in the early 90s doesn't mean it ever died or got worse. Bands like Megadeth, Slayer, Testament, Exodus, Iced Earth, Death, Gamma Ray, Opeth, and others have been carrying on the banner of thrash (or other brands of metal- Iron Maiden has never been thrash but they still are kicking ass with their own classic, epic style) throughout the 90s and in this decade.
I just get kind of irked when I hear that there was a "glory age" or whatever of Metal and hear other generalizations about it not being that great today (though I do know you like a few of today's metal bands, Moose Knight).

[aeris2001x2]

ok, this is just my OPINION...

Iron Maiden= never unstood why they are so popular. they have a few fantastic songs, but the rest is generic bordom.

Megadeth= started off as metallica, and like slayer stayed the same and got boring.

Blind Guardian= see Iron Maiden

Iced Earth= a fantastic band. i do not think they are anything like Iron Maiden. love Dantes Inferno, original colours and burnt offering and other classics.

Metallica= with the exception of the last Albulm it all rules. i like them because they are always changing. Ride the lighting reigns, Master of puppets would be mediocre without the interlude, reload kicks Kill em all and AJFA. i have still not heard any metal that tops this, things like Call of Ktulu and Orion may as well be classical music.

Evanescence= these rule, dont agree? no one else likes them either, but i like what i like.

Lacuna Coil= Pale in comparison to Evanescence

Slipknot/Good Charlotte= this is true mainstream stuff...and utterly pathetic.

Woot...why am i defending myself so much? Metal is hardly my fav thing in the world. meh check my sig...

[Chzn8r]

Hey, opinions are all good, *as long as you know what you're talking about* Cool with me.

[Kirobaito]

This frustrates me mightily. You can say whatever you want about country, but there are 4 types of metal on that list, all of which sound exactly the same IMO, yet country is not even a choice. That's absolutely incredible. What do you consider MUSIC? At the very least country should have been a choice.

Country is the only type of music I listen to, because it's the only kind of music these days that I hear that is in any way comforting and good to listen to. The songs have meaning (and no, the meanings are never "mah dog got ran over by a truck"; these are the opinions of idiots who have never bothered to listen to it). The instrumentation, if you listen to it, is incredible.

My favorite artist will always be John Denver. While he is really a genre of his own, if he were to be sorted into a genre it would be country. I simply find song after song by him that is incredible.

Annie's Song
Take Me Home Country Roads
Thank God I'm a Country Boy
Rhymes and Reasons
Follow Me
Starwood in Aspen
For Baby (For Bobbie)
This Old Guitar
Poems, Prayers, and Promises
Goodbye Again
Welcome to My Morning (Farewell Andromeda)
Fly Away
Leaving on a Jet Plane
Calypso
Rocky Mountain High
Pickin' The Sun Down

There's 16 songs there that are all VERY good.

Now, I will explain why I don't like other kinds of music.

First of all, rap. The bass. Is incredibly. Loud. I can't even stand to be near it, because it gives me an absolute headache. This is not what music was intended to be.

Classic Rock...OK, you can say what you want to say, I'm simply stating MY opinion, but 70-some odd percentage of the songs are just words strung together. And even if the songs are intended to have meaning, they're ruined by just horrible lyricists. A sample lyric:

"putting his face in a jar by the door"

Or something to that effect. OK, the point of loneliness, and wearing a face in public, I understand all that. It's a metaphor. There's no such thing as a metaphor of putting your face in a jar. That's just...dumb.

Punk Rock I've never been able to stand because it's just too loud. Same with the 4 types of metal (which the difference between them....eh????)

Pop=computer generated music. Learn to play.

Jazz and Blues I can stand. I'll admit that. But you can only listen to so many blues/jazz songs before you realize that they all mean virtually the same thing.

Uematsu should not be his own genre. If you really know music, you realize that he is NOT that good. It's only because his songs are in games that we know them. His songs are all at the level that I could write them.

Anime music...meh. I'm not a fan of Japanese music. Simple as that.

I don't even know what Indie is. Same with emo. Goth music? Next, please.

Lastly, classical. This music is very pretty. I can listen to it if I have to. But...you can only listen to so much of it.

When I inform people that I like country music, they immediately say "Well, duh. You're from Texas." These people are ignorant, and don't realize that I am the only person that I know that likes country music. Some people say they do, but in reality only like prep country like Rascal Flatts, Cross-Canadian Ragweed, and Pat Green, only the former which I can stand. And anybody who doesn't like John Denver doesn't know what music is. I'm the only child or adult that likes John Denver that I even know. It's weird sometimes, because I am only made fun of when I have my music on. It shouldn't have to be this way.

How is the greatest music of all not even a choice?

[aeris2001x2]

This frustrates me mightily. You can say whatever you want about country, but there are 4 types of metal on that list, all of which sound exactly the same IMO, yet country is not even a choice. That's absolutely incredible. What do you consider MUSIC? At the very least country should have been a choice.

Country is the only type of music I listen to, because it's the only kind of music these days that I hear that is in any way comforting and good to listen to. The songs have meaning (and no, the meanings are never "mah dog got ran over by a truck"; these are the opinions of idiots who have never bothered to listen to it). The instrumentation, if you listen to it, is incredible.

My favorite artist will always be John Denver. While he is really a genre of his own, if he were to be sorted into a genre it would be country. I simply find song after song by him that is incredible.

Annie's Song
Take Me Home Country Roads
Thank God I'm a Country Boy
Rhymes and Reasons
Follow Me
Starwood in Aspen
For Baby (For Bobbie)
This Old Guitar
Poems, Prayers, and Promises
Goodbye Again
Welcome to My Morning (Farewell Andromeda)
Fly Away
Leaving on a Jet Plane
Calypso
Rocky Mountain High
Pickin' The Sun Down

There's 16 songs there that are all VERY good.

Now, I will explain why I don't like other kinds of music.

First of all, rap. The bass. Is incredibly. Loud. I can't even stand to be near it, because it gives me an absolute headache. This is not what music was intended to be.

Classic Rock...OK, you can say what you want to say, I'm simply stating MY opinion, but 70-some odd percentage of the songs are just words strung together. And even if the songs are intended to have meaning, they're ruined by just horrible lyricists. A sample lyric:

"putting his face in a jar by the door"

Or something to that effect. OK, the point of loneliness, and wearing a face in public, I understand all that. It's a metaphor. There's no such thing as a metaphor of putting your face in a jar. That's just...dumb.

Punk Rock I've never been able to stand because it's just too loud. Same with the 4 types of metal (which the difference between them....eh????)

Pop=computer generated music. Learn to play.

Jazz and Blues I can stand. I'll admit that. But you can only listen to so many blues/jazz songs before you realize that they all mean virtually the same thing.

Uematsu should not be his own genre. If you really know music, you realize that he is NOT that good. It's only because his songs are in games that we know them. His songs are all at the level that I could write them.

Anime music...meh. I'm not a fan of Japanese music. Simple as that.

I don't even know what Indie is. Same with emo. Goth music? Next, please.

Lastly, classical. This music is very pretty. I can listen to it if I have to. But...you can only listen to so much of it.

When I inform people that I like country music, they immediately say "Well, duh. You're from Texas." These people are ignorant, and don't realize that I am the only person that I know that likes country music. Some people say they do, but in reality only like prep country like Rascal Flatts, Cross-Canadian Ragweed, and Pat Green, only the former which I can stand. And anybody who doesn't like John Denver doesn't know what music is. I'm the only child or adult that likes John Denver that I even know. It's weird sometimes, because I am only made fun of when I have my music on. It shouldn't have to be this way.

How is the greatest music of all not even a choice?

well there is an *other-please specify* section.

NU is a GENIUS in my opinion. to accuse me of not knowing music is a bias opininated self righteous falsity. i KNOW what good music is to me. my personal preferences. just because u dont believe NU is good does not make u 100% right. its a SUBJECTIVE TRUTH.

for me, the subjective truth is that most of the country i have heard as bored me 2 death. thats not to say my word is law, and that ppl who disagree are wrong. thats just to say it does not suit my personality.

so if u dont like Evanescence, dont like NU, dont like my taste in music...thats your right. but dont try to impose your tastes on me .

p.s- i,m not going 2 say u dont know music, but the four types of metal are very different. i think the problem is (many of my friends and me had this) that when u first here metal it does sound the same. as u get more into it u start to notice the differences, and in time u can soon work out many diff genres. those are only 4, there is lots of diff rock and metal genres.

[-N-]

Punk Rock is my favorite, but don't mistake punk rock for that troutty stuff on mtv. Pointless lyrics is not punk rock. At least, not in my opinion.

You'd better be right about that.

[aeris2001x2]

the only so called mtv *punk* i like is blink 182. i have heard several old school punk bands, mainly jazz influenced scar punk. that was very good. ultimately though it just is not 4 me. i think the sex pistols are awful, but thats just my opinion.

[Chzn8r]

Same with the 4 types of metal (which the difference between them....eh????)

I'm gonna take a stab at this... like any genre, evolutions and changes of style can cause an infinite number of sub genres, but there are generally a few that are a hood which most of it falls under. In the case with Metal, here's the best list I can give you-

Classic Metal- The 80s works of Judas Priest and Iron Maiden are the best example of this... taking hard rock to a next level of faster guitars, playing loudly and often very skillfully, with specific emphasis on solos during breaks from singing in the songs; and more intricate drumming and bass rhythms that go beyond just 1...2...3...4...repeat. The vocals are more influenced by an operatic style than average rock, which could be sung by any joe-schmoe voice.
Thrash (or Speed) Metal- Taking the speed and agression of metal to an even higher "extreme" (I don't find it all that extreme ), with fast chugging guitars often accompanied by quick double-bass-pedal drums. While retaining the general technicality of the first metal bands, there is less melody in both the singing and in the structure of the songs... more of it is based on show & speed. Metallica's first 4 albums are probably the most precise examples of this.
Oh- and ballads are ALWAYS an exception to standard thrash metal fare. You'd be hard pressed to find a thrash band who DIDN'T slow it down for a song once in a while to show some emotion and play to a more accessible melody.

Those are the two bases of metal, from the early-mid 80s. Everything else stems from those. One thing to note though, a special thing... "Hair Metal". This was the pop form of metal in the 80s that dominated the airwaves and was THE mainstream (along side synth-pop). But just like any other mainstream genre, it eventually died (in this case giving way to grunge & alternative in the 90s). When a serious fan of metal refers to the genre, do not think of Motley Crue, Poison, or any of those... that was souped up hard rock with the "metal" image, and an occasional "metal" guitar solo.

If you would like me to divulge into the sub-genres of Metal that started forming in the late 80s and have continued underground from the mainstream to this day, I will, but I'm not sure if you wanted this explanation in the first place, so I'll stop for now.

[Kirobaito]

Uh...aeris2001x2...these are all subjective truths. It's all a matter of taste. I thought this thread was to state what kind of music you liked and why. That's all I was doing. You don't have to get all over my butt for it. You're taking what I say way too seriously. Much more often it's other people thinking that my music is crap and trying to make me listen to their crap. I'm not trying to make you listen to country, because I know that some people don't have the tastes to listen to real music (WHICH IS AN OPINION OMG).

But seriously...this is like me filling out "other" on an answer sheet under "ethnicity." (which I had to do, strangely enough).

To consider the genre of country music to be "other" and for there to be four types of metal, and NOBUO UEMATSU on the list AS HIS OWN FREAKING GENRE is a little ridiculous. Even you must admit that.

[aeris2001x2]

not really. they r valid genres and i rushed it anyway so i did not even think of genres like country etc. i,m not sure exactly what genre NU would fit in (he does alot of diff genres), so i just gave him his own thing.

yeah i know its an opinion thread...but many ppl on here are taking the piss out of my music tastes and i will not stand 4 it .

[escobert]

I agree with KB on this. Also forgot R&B.

[Trumpet Thief]

Y'know, Yasunori Mitsuda is far better than Uematsu anyway.

And his name is cooler too.

...I still don't get why any of you would REALLY want to listen to game music outside a game anyway, I really don't get it at all.

chaos: I found them both equal...

Rubedo: Although, I like his orchestra type music for Xenosaga. It sounds more "professional".

[aeris2001x2]

maybe i could find out..(u know whats coming)...if they released the Xeno games in the UK!

[Lindy]

I would like to ask, WTF IS NU?

Is it just that people have trouble with spelling the horribly hard, three letter word "new"?

Or is it a fantastic new buzz word, like "screemo", which by the way can stfu.

To consider the genre of country music to be "other" and for there to be four types of metal, and NOBUO UEMATSU on the list AS HIS OWN FREAKING GENRE is a little ridiculous. Even you must admit that.

And to that, I sympathise. Core genres begin with Classical, Rock, Country and so on, AND THEN filter down to metal, punk, etc. and then genres within genres. To have a list that lacks even the core genres is just silly. That said, I'm not the worlds biggest fan of country music, but still, it deserves something more than just "other".