Americans, are you watching right now?
Once this is over, I'd like to get some input from what other people have to say about the current debate tonight.
Take care all.
The Debates
Americans, are you watching right now?
Once this is over, I'd like to get some input from what other people have to say about the current debate tonight.
Take care all.
Cant.... damn TV is busted
"Everything has a purpose. It's your life's mission to find yours."
Watching it right now.
Originally Posted by Mirage
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I taped it and I'm about to go watch it. I heard a few minutes of the beginning of the debates, but I haven't really paid attention. *watches*
Mugwumps, hi-jumps, low slumps, big bumps
I watched most of it and I agree with Kerry on foriegn policy a lot. Kerry explained why his plan would work and why the current plan isn't working. All Bush could do is say 'My plan is working and his can't' and offered no explaination.
I hate them both but Kerry sound and looked good tonight. The Bush couldn't stop stumbling when he talked and was some what hunched over.
Kerry was quick to reply to everything for the most part and rarely stumbled.
Thats just how they presented themselves. I don't agree with Bush at all. I am a person for as much globalization as possible and Bush in xenophobic and doesn't care about the rest of the world and only the USA(which I think makes the US look like a tyrant and an enemy to most and actually will put us in more harm in the future).
What does everyone think?
This debate has drastically changed my view, and though I disliked both candidates before, I find myself agreeing with Kerry more and more.
Like ed, his views on foreign policy seem extremely reasonable to me. Bush has proved to be a complete idiot when it comes to trying to get allies. In the debate he mentioned the countries that have supported us, but Kerry was quick to rebuttle by describing the small numbers they offer. "90% casualties, 90% cost," Kerry said a couple times.
Bush screwed up, as far as I'm concerned. He was very unproffessional. He paused awkwardly far too often, he avoided Kerry's challenges and hid behind his constant, "Mixed message," excuse. ed was also right that Bush rarely gave support as to why his methods were working. Kerry didn't have that burden, however, as his ideas had not been put to the test.
My dad, who I watched it with, pointed out that, in the beginning, both Bush and Kerry were looking towards the crowd or Lehrer. I was a bit taken by this. I didn't really notice, but once I did, it was really, really awkward. Once I was aware of this, I kept waiting for them to look. Eye contact is important, even if you're on TV, looking at the camera is just as good.
Kerry was a lot more organized in his approach. He constantly took notes, and when you looked at him, you knew he was listening to Bush. He was sly and when Bush said something without clarifying what he was refering to it, Kerry turned it around on him. That may upset some, but that strikes me as intelligent, and I'd like an intelligent president.
Kerry made the mistake of saying, "Wrong war, wrong time, wrong place," and Bush mashed that into him for the rest of the debate. I think Bush used it too much, and in the end, it didn't mean the same thing anymore and it's effectiveness was completely lost.
Kerry thrashed Bush's rear.
I would like to point out that the canidates were not looking at the camera the whole time and also not necessairly looking at the audience. In front of the person dishing out the questions and time limits was a green, yellow and red light thing(just like the canidates had on their podium) so that they would know when they had to stop speaking and when to start wrapping it up.
While it is a bit distracting it helps to keep things more organized and helps things to move faster and flow smoother.
True, but they spent a great deal of time watching those lights then.
I know. I think they did the best job they could. They have to look at the commentator, the opponent, the audience, the lights AND us. I think they did a fairly good job of it. Not great but not horrible either given all the different spots to focus on.
I couldn't agree more with the assessments given thus far:
Kerry seemed very into the debates, into what was being said and was quick to response and most importantly had a clear message and stuck with it in a clear way. He was very knowledgable on global politics, in fact seemed more so than Bush did, which isn't a good sign.
Bush in my opinion was his usual self, in that he couldn't really articulate his answers and by the end seemed almost disinterested, which will be unforgiving in this era of "Image" TV. He seemed to be hoping that his points would come together but instead seemed to only continue to string together phrases that, as others have said, rang hollow by the end.
A few polls that shot up after the debate on CBS, ABC, and NBC had Kerry with a big victory in this debate and that many undecided voters were clearly in favor of what Kerry had to say over Bush.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a true race now.
Take care all.
I really REALLY hope the polls show this next week. Thats when we will really know if what was said stuck around. In the coming days people will think about what was said a lot more and decide if they REALLY TRUELY agree with what was said. I say wait till next weeks polls and you know there is going to be a change.
I thought this was going to be the easiest debate to win for Kerry. The economy should be easy also but Bush will hammer those tax cuts for everyone. I hope Kerry has a message of being more fiscally conservative...or at least smart about it and tries to decrease the deficit and maybe attempt to do something about the debt(Long shot...I know).
Yeah, because Bush was really pissed off at Kerry. I notice how his face got all red.I hate them both but Kerry sound and looked good tonight. The Bush couldn't stop stumbling when he talked and was some what hunched over.
I just think Kerry is a flip-flopper. He voted for the war then voted against it, and before on. He also kept talking about he's going to rebuild things but he never said how.
I agree with Bush...My opponent says help is on the way, but what kind of message does it say to our troops in harm's way - wrong war, wrong place, wrong time? Not a message a commander in chief gives, or this is a great diversion.
30 Allies in collolition forces...We are fighting with 90% of everything over there. That means the other 30 countires are doing 1/3 of 1 percent. Great collolition there :rolleyes:
He said he would START getting us out of Iraq. We will stay there as long as we have to but his plan calls for a majority of forces out in 4 years and not 6 months.
EDIT: I see you delete A LOT of what you put down noname. Guess I am going to have to be a jerk and put down the jist of what you said.
He complained that Kerry was going to get us out of Iraq in 6 months. He also said something about Kerry complaining that we didn't have a big collolition when we went in and said we had 30 countires.
Then the rest was really a huge complain about vietnam and swift boat stuff.
I am going to target those 30 countires again and ask how many of them made a big commitment outside of the UK and Austrialia?
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