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    Ok, I just scraped through against Safer Sephiroth, with Barret and Tifa dead, Super Nova decimating Cloud, I went for the limit last attack rather than healing method, and Meteorain did about 80k damage, no idea why it did so much, as it has never done that much before, but I killed Safer.

    So, some questions on the final demo....

    Holy, comes to save the planet....it counteracts meteor, destroying it and also saving the planet.

    Does holy destroy Midgar on purpose, removing all the mako-sucking technology, to "return the planet to its original state" kind of thing? Hence the jungle that has overgrown Midgar?

    The lifestream, does that seep out of the planet to aid holy, because it isn't doing the job quite well enough, and its helping hand destroys meteor?

    Is the little girl in Kalm Marlene, and why does she say "the flower girl"?

    The very last image of Aeries, why is that there? Who sees her?

    If Nanaki is the last of his kind, who is the mother to his two children?

    Any idea what happens to the rest of the cast except Nanaki? Or is that just down to each's own interpratation?

    Basically, could you please answer my questions, but also put a comprehensive interpretation of what you think the final demo means, and what exactly happens?

    Thanx

    Oh, and I've never seem Omnislash before, Cloud owned Sephiroth!!!
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    To answer your questions.

    The first, I dont think Holy intentionally destroyed Midgar. I mean, having two major forces of Good/Evil overhead giving it both barrels is gonna leave anywhere in disarray.

    The lifestream's there to help, yes.

    Yes she is, and the 'flowergirl' is the nickname of Aeris

    It's because Aeris IS there, and you see her

    For nanaki, your guess is as good as mine

    Hard to say. Some say that everyone is dead bar Nanaki. I think at the very end sequence everyone is at least dead from old age (Nanaki after all does live about three hundred years). However judging by the fact their bringing out Advent Children, they all survive

    I think the final FMV basically explores whether or not the human race is worth saving, after all the damage we do to the planet. The release of Holy to me isn't there to stop Meteor, but rather a sign that there are people who are willing to step-up to save the planet i.e. Cloud and crew.
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    Holy didn't stop Meteor, it failed. In its failure, lifestream emerged from the planet and is actually what stopped Meteor. I think the image of Aerith as the end is supposed to show that at that point it was Aerith's will, inside the lifestream, that made it consciously emerge to save the planet and those living on it. Personally, I thought the ending was incomplete and unsatisfactory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necronopticous
    Holy didn't stop Meteor, it failed. In its failure, lifestream emerged from the planet and is actually what stopped Meteor. I think the image of Aerith as the end is supposed to show that at that point it was Aerith's will, inside the lifestream, that made it consciously emerge to save the planet and those living on it. Personally, I thought the ending was incomplete and unsatisfactory.
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    As Bugenhagen dies, he tells Red to go out into the world and search for others of his kind. The ending shows that he succeeded.

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    Here is how I interpreted the ending.

    (SPOILER)Cloud and company manage to stop Sephiroth (whatever he'd become) and Jenova (whatever the hell she was in the first place) so that Holy can be unleashed. However, we see Holy and Metor almost in a struggle, with Meteor bearing down as Holy tries to fight it away. The girl in the window is indeed Marlene, and she says "The flower girl" because she's aware of who Aeris was and what Aeris did to save the planet. In short, while Aeris was taking care of Marlene before Sector 7 was destroyed, she obviously told Marlene a lot about herself. Barret probably filled in the rest later when he went to see her before the party left for North Crater.

    Anyway.

    Since Meteor is actually winning the struggle, the planet starts to react by sending tons and tons of lifestream to heal itself (which is ironic, cause that's what Sephiroth wanted to happen, and even though the party killed him it happened anyway). In the end OF THE GAME* we don't really know the outcome. We only see Meteor about to destroy the planet and Holy failing to save it. However, the last screen, that of Aeris, is supposed to provide hope in the gamer that it all works out in the end, as that's what her character represented throughout the game.

    *From trailers for Advent Children, we can assume at least Midgar was destroyed by Meteor. But we're talking about the game .


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    Quote Originally Posted by devilmaykickass
    You can either do one of the following then:

    A) See Advent Children when it comes out and HUSH!

    B) Burn at the steak.
    Haha, I choose A! Advent Children is like the second coming of Christ for me, I'm so excited I want to vomit.

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    If you look at Aries at the end, it's virtually (if not exactly) like she was at the very beginning of the game when she was kneeling by some place (praying?) with little green balls of... shinyness... coming out of someplace in Midgar. My interpritation of that was to show that Aries had had a premonision of all the things to come, showing she knew everything that was going to happen. That's why she wasn't afraid, because she knew she was going to die, and that there was nothing she could do about it, but she also knew that the world would be saved. Does that make sense?

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    Advent Children is like a year after meteor, and the ending of FFVII is like...hundreds of years later, watch the hole ending. speaking of which, is there something after the blackness with stars going by? and sepheroth wanted to destroy the planet...completely i beleive. but even with the amount of lifestream used up, there was probably alot left, seeing's how the planet survived, AND healed itself

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    there is only one thing that matters

    the only thing that matters is that sephiroth actually is not dead, he has just returned to the lifestream, which is something that the thread maker didnt touch on.

    this is shown when the streams of life energy that sephiroth goes into do not disappear. he has just done what he did when that lucky punk cloud threw the injured man into the mako in the reactor.

    sephiroth will never die he is a being of the lifestream and he is due for an amazing comeback..... if you are still wondering cloud is a weak man who when he has a headache falls to the ground and cries...who could idalize someone like that .

    sephiroth will never die

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    When Cloud tossed Sephiroth into the Lifestream, his body was injured, but still preserved. When Cloud killed Sephiroth, his body freaking exploded. No more Sephiroth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kawaii Ryűkishi
    When Cloud tossed Sephiroth into the Lifestream, his body was injured, but still preserved. When Cloud killed Sephiroth, his body freaking exploded. No more Sephiroth.
    did u not see that his body just turned into spirit energy and did not actually disappear. this leads one to beleive that he didnt die but retreat to the lifestream.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sephirothisnotdead
    if you are still wondering cloud is a weak man who when he has a headache falls to the ground and cries...who could idalize someone like that .
    Give the bloke a chance the time he did that ....he was trying to find himself!i think it adds depth to show that he is actually human...sortof...and thats part of the reason why the game intrigues me...thats these "average" lookin people could do so much good or bad. Sortof parallels us humans....that the average man or woman can do soo much good or bad!

    the mother? i think the name red 13 suggests there are others out there

    my opinion about the ending was that it was perfect....id like to hear why its incomplete and unsatisfactory





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    I hear they are remaking the ending in AC?


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    the mother? i think the name red 13 suggests there are others out there
    Red XIII's real name is Nanaki. XIII means he was the 13th experiment by Hojo, done on different things. Not all of his experiments were on the same species. I think he gives Aerith a number, if I remember right.

    But yes, there are others of his kind out there, at least one other, as proven by the children at the end.

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