View Poll Results: Who would/will you vote for in this U.S. election?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShlupBert
    I just really dont agree with what most of kerry says.
    This is a phrase I hear oh-so-often. The thing is that I almost never hear anything come after it, like... I don't know... Examples? I talk to so many people who say the same thing and when backed into a corner just give up and confess, "well... My parents are voting that way!" It's perfectly fine if you actually disagree with what Kerry stands for, but I just hope that is really the case and not just an easy excuse.

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    I'm having trouble finding exact stances on things. When I do I will give my opinion on them.

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    Iraq didn't have WMD. If they did then where are they? I don't mean now. I mean in 98' and before the war with those 2 separate sets of weapons inspectors and then right after the war.

    If I was Iraq I would be saying things like "You will never find them because it I need to maintain a certain perspetion to the rest of the countries around me as well as the Kurds and the Sunies(or however you spell that one). If it comes out that I don't have anything then I have a civil war on my hands.

    I still ask where are they? Its not like they had bombs or anything. It was things that could potentially be made into bombs like chlorine which every industrialized non-third world country has for reasons other than making bombs.

    As for saving money on the gas bill...it has gone up and not down.

    I also don't think the war was justified given the current reason. I don't give a damn about them over there until we solve some serious problems over here first.

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    Don't forget, Bush has cost more jobs during his 4 years than adding them.

    Did I mention that moments after hearing his soldiers he sent to Iraq, that 8 of them died. Just 3 hours later he was watching an Astros game during the NLDS. How can he just enjoy himself while he puts other people in danger like that? I know he has a duty to send troops if necessary, but don't just sit there eating cracker jacks and having a laugh. It's pathetic really.

    Because of Bush's black and white views (such as "Either you're with us or against us") has turned many countries who use to side witht he US away. Instead of using a global effort, we spend too much of our tax dollars when instead other countries were probably willing to help for the war if Bush wasn't so ignorant.

    Not only that, he wants to add a Constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage, which is extreme.

    He also claimed in 2000 that he wanted to bring the country together...yet why is it still 50/50? There's even more hate for each political parties from opposing parties than there was 4 years ago.

    I can list a lot more...but voting for Bush is a terrible vote to waste.

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    Well maybe that's how you feel but I on ther ther hand feel it's a good vote and that's my right.

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    I would like to know why everyone sees the Iraq war as justified but they don't say anything about the genocide that is going on in Sudan.

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    Because it's not as public since it's not someone liek hussen who's had a very stong history with the US be it good and bad mostly bad though. I mean if we needed to I would support going there and takeing care of things. I may be mistaken but I thought the U.N. was in sudan right now for whatever that's worth.

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    My point is is it not the duty of a leader to know about these things? Why are we in Iraq if there are so many terrible things going on in the world that could be receiving our attention? Frankly I do not believe the war is justified because I do not believe it to be a noble cause. I believe any nobility derived from the war is mere propoganda and some benefits that aren't the core of the reason.

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    OK I'm ticked off! who added the other option?! I wanted to get a group as a whole,not as people that can vote... That just sways the idea of this thread! Thank you for nothing... This defeats the purpose and this thread should be locked!If you are not going to vote, Then justdont post here! Same as on elections, you dont vote "I'm notgoing to choose" you just dont register! Mods and Admins.... LOCK THIS THREAD or DELETE IT or FIX IT!

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    chaos: Personally, I'd prefer Kerry over Bush. Everyone else seems to have taken the words out of my mouth, so no real use reasoning.

    Rubedo: I guess you could say I'm the supporter of the "Anybody but Bush" thing, but I'll also have to remember that we wouldn't want to give power to another horrible president. Truly, we'll just have to wait and see, but until then, If I were able to vote, I would give mine to Kerry.

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    This may be an unpopular opinion but it's all a sham anyway. Both of them are under the control of one group of invisible higher-ups anyway so I would refuse to vote. Their both idiots anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud_99
    This may be an unpopular opinion but it's all a sham anyway. Both of them are under the control of one group of invisible higher-ups anyway so I would refuse to vote. Their both idiots anyway.
    chaos: Yaep, exactly what I think.

    Rubedo: Although if we had to vote, we'd go with Kerry.

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    Here's to give Bert a bit of support.

    My stance on things is hard to determine. I still do believe that Iraq had WMD. I believe that they were sent to Syria before the war started, but that's an entirely different matter.

    I think that people make the President out to be the Anti-Christ, which he is not. With the hand he was dealt with as he came into office, it was impossible for anyone to expect the Pax Romana. I believe that Bush is desperately misunderstood.

    Fundamentally, I am a Republican. I believe in what are supposed to be Republican ideals. I will always be this way. Would I be happy with the re-election of Bush? A month ago, I would have said no. But the stories that I have been reading of Kerry...and these aren't propaganda, these are actual issues that he's wanting to put forth recently that he has no facts on. Now I say that I do want Bush to be re-elected. However, I want some serious changes on his cabinet, foremost the removal of Ashcroft, and a renovation of the Republican Party as a whole. I think that from the very beginning, Bush was given a situation that he had a solution to, however, I think that it will take longer than 4 years to do. I think we should give him a chance to finish what he started. All of things that critics claim he never did...well, he never really got a chance to. He couldn't have stopped 9/11. It wasn't his fault. It happened. That changed everybody's lives, including his.

    If I was old enough to vote, I think that I would vote for Bush.

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    Bush came into office, dealt with what's probably the worst attack on US soil ever, and forcefully overthrew two iron-fisted dictatorships. I think Al Qaeda awoke a sleeping giant on 9-11. Afghanistan and Iraq are just the beginning. I'm voting for Bush, because he's giving tyrant nations their due. He's solving the problems that diplomacy hadn't. It's better to be feared than loved, if you can't have both, and to be honest, I don't think the US will ever be loved. Bush is bringing fear to our enemies. After all, a full scale invasion by the world superpower, and the toppling of one's government is more than most rogue peoples are willing to risk.
    Knock yourselves down.

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    I'm voting for Kerry because I actually like Kerry.

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