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    summons were useless, especially because their animations becomes long and boring. A quick shock! is almost always better. I think I only summoned when it was really necessary to. Many of the bosses were ridiculously easy to beat after steiner learned shock. The only summon reasonalbe enough to use if they were to be uses are Phoenix and maybe bahamut, but towards the end of the game I believe that many enemies absorbed dark.
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    Another good reason to use summons with boost: Auto-Regen. The animations allow you to heal half your HP (which is very useful if you aren't overleveled at the finnish of the game).
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    Quote Originally Posted by bEoWuLfX
    summons were useless, especially because their animations becomes long and boring. A quick shock! is almost always better. I think I only summoned when it was really necessary to. Many of the bosses were ridiculously easy to beat after steiner learned shock. The only summon reasonalbe enough to use if they were to be uses are Phoenix and maybe bahamut, but towards the end of the game I believe that many enemies absorbed dark.

    Absorbed Dark? Wtf are you talking about. If you read the description of Bahamut, you will notice it will do Non-Elemental Damage. Also, some ppl said that FFVIII's summons are better. I say that they are much worse. Considering you can use them for free, they protect you, and they become faster and faster as you use them more, you become more dependant on them, which hurts you in the later game. Considering I have 100 hastes on speed and 100 flares on attack for squall, i dont really need them. FFIX's summons are great if you know how to use them properly. The only thing that i dont like is how easy it is to get all of them. I am on the third disk on my second game (The one where i do all the side quests and accually train.) and i already have all the summons exept arc memorized, as I can't fuse the 2 pumice pieces in my inv. yet. (1 from beating ark, one from the chocobo sidequest, possible the most addictive sidequest in ff history). I like how in ff4 to get the best Summons (Asura, Leviathan, Sylph, and i think Bahamut (He is so hard to beat that i still havent defeated him yet, all it takes is 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, then all my guys are dead (ppl who have played ff4 and faced bahamut will know what im talking about)) you have to fight them or do some sort of work for them at least. But, the cinimatics for the summons are so cool on FFIX that it is worth it to use them, just to see odin ride by and slash the enemies. It's just cool.

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    Summons dnt suck they are a massive part of da final fantasy stories
    VIVA LA SUMMONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    BAHAMUT ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    without summons ff wudnt be da same!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyndiny 1445 4eva
    Summons dnt suck they are a massive part of da final fantasy stories
    VIVA LA SUMMONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    BAHAMUT ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    without summons ff wudnt be da same!!!!!!!!!
    No, where talking about summons in FF9 only. :freak:
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    Default Summon suck ??? I don't think so

    OK, OK. Summon isn't very good in battle BUT ............................
    Some summon r very useful like Pheonix

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    Quote Originally Posted by CloudZidaneFusion
    I like how in ff4 to get the best Summons (Asura, Leviathan, Sylph, and i think Bahamut (He is so hard to beat that i still havent defeated him yet, all it takes is 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, then all my guys are dead (ppl who have played ff4 and faced bahamut will know what im talking about)) you have to fight them or do some sort of work for them at least. :
    I have to comment on this one. In FFIV, use Wall when you face Bahamut. It reflects Mega-nuke. Just watch out cause in the FFII version that I play (US SNES) Wall wears out after about four rounds, so any you cast at "5" will be gone by the time Meganuke is unleashed. Sorry if I ruined the challenge of that one for you, but I'm not sure if there's any other way to beat the guy besides making sure Kain is in the air while he does the blast. And if you're like me, you want to get Bahamut on your first trip to the moon, so that's not an option. Maybe if you overlevel you could damage him enough to kill him before time runs out... I'm usually only a level or two beyond getting Wall (needed for Ashura) when I face him, so Holy, Meteo, Nuke, Crystal Sword, Jump aren't options for me. Note: I suppose I do have the spells with FuSoYa, but not with the main characters. And that guy needs to be casting Wall anyways....
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    The reason summons are useful in this game is 'cause they're used by characters who otherwise have no attack power. If Steiner used summons they'd be useless.

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    It's true, I don't think I've ever used a summon more then once in FF9. My Quina's attack did 4000 or my Bahumut did 3500! You telling me the Legendary King of Dragons is weaker then an multi-sexed, over sized toad!
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    Heh, I got lucky with thievery-- I didn't know about it and just always stole with Zidane in every battle, so by the time I did learn about it, he was doing about 7000, which was fine by me.

    I never got into the summoning in ff9. I don't think I even summoned all of them. I definitely didn't get ark. (was that the one with the great big gaping mouth that reminds me of a marlboro?)

    I preferred ff8's summoning system much more-- use the summons early on when you need them, and later they're still useful for junctioning and abilities. Sorta like ffx, I guess.

    so in short? Didn't use a white mage anywhere near the final dungeon (amarant was a good enough healer for me)

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    Default odin is best

    odin is the best cause if you get daggers odins sword ability he dose more than 8k damige to necron even and bahamut dose arund 2-3k damige to anything but the weakest monsters its true later in the game most summons suck all i ever do is summon odin use holy flare and attack with zidanes ultimate weapon wich is good enught whats the point in wasting 50 mp on a move that dose 3k when you can use 20odd mp for an attack that dose 8k+ all the time or kills em with death. summon on X sucked becasue they where only about 2x the power of your 3 attakers apart from yojimbo

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    How can I get the Ancient Aroma, to use Odin's Sword?

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    I agree, the summoning is kinda useless in FF 9, but phoenix saved my sister from getting killed by kuja so sometimes they can come in handy as well, but personly I just go for trance and upgrading weapons.

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    My Bahamut does over 6000 damage and summons attacks all enemies,
    most of the other strongest attacks only hit one enemy.

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    maybe against yans, but otherwise you can pretty much take any monster you fight wothout summons.

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