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    1. Did Shadow commit suicide or something? He just stayed on kefka's tower, talking about Baram and starting anew? Who's Baram anyways? I didn't really understand those shadow dreams, and I didn't see shadow on the ship at the end.

    2. speaking of missing people, I didn't see umaro or gogo on the ship either at the end. what happened to them?

    3. It seemed strange that the scene was brought to katarina and her pregancy, and one of the kids saying "do it right kararina" - i.e. don't give birth by C-section - this seems really strange and inappropriate at this point in the game?

    4. I was also kinda upset that the world didn't become all ideal and green and beautiful. It looked still pretty crappy and the love story between celes and locke didn't really get developed very far. Nor did Terra herself find a lover, despite the fact that apparently she had enough love for "somebody or a group of people" to be able to live as a human?

    5. Did anyone find the final boss to be tremendously easy compared to FFV? I had a nasty time with neo-exdeath...I wasn't very levelled up this time either, hovering around 48 for all my characters.

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    1-Shadow either killed himself or started a new life without any crime or assassinations, ie a normal life.

    2-I thought I saw Umaro on the ship at the end, but the reason you don't see Gogo is that he probably died from that fall.

    3-?????

    4-The world was slowly revivifying. Rome wasn't built in a day, you know.

    5-Kefka was very easy. FFV's final boss was the hardest, imo.

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    chaos: To answer your first question, I'm pretty sure Shadow died, seeing as Kefka's Tower was collapsing fast, and all he did was sit in the corner.

    Rubedo: If you examined his dreams closely, I doubt he would've started a new life. I think what he meant was when he spoke his lasts words was that we was going to stop running away from his troubled past, and that he was going to start again in the life beyond (if there is such a thing). Special thanks to Ultima Shadow who explained that whole concept to me

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    1. Shadow is dead. Baram was his old friend who died.

    2. Gogo and Umaro are fine. Think of the ending of VII, where (SPOILER)Vincent and Yuffie arent shown, but clearly still alive at the end. It's because those characters are optional and have little to do with the main story, apart from side quests and interesting stuff and such.

    3. Um... what? That makes no sense. The child is encouraging her during her labor. I highly doubt a kid would know what a c-section is anyway.

    4. The world didnt become brown and ugly in one day, it wont become green and pretty in one, either. The love Terra wanted was the one she'd lacked all her life; the love of friendship and family. She found both in Mobliz, in the children. She wasnt looking for a romantic sort of love.

    5. He's easy, yes.

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    3- I am pretty sure that scene is one of those to show that hope and such is going to continue and blah blah. It is just a scene to show you that things are growing and will return to ?normal?. and if I remember right there are other scenes with a similar interperation,

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    You see a small plant sprouting in one of the towns. That and Katarina's child are to show you that life has begun to come back to the world, though it's a long road back.

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    Oh, and I forgot to add this. Gogo DOES NOT die in the fall in Kefka's tower. That scene is meant for comedy, and it shows his eyes all googly and such in the darkness.

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    I've only completed the game with Shadow once, but the ending did nothing to suggest that he committed suicide. He talked about a new beginning, not an ending. So I believe he made his own way out of the tower, and left behind his old life for a life of contemplative solitude, or altruism, or something else. The world had many ravaged towns; I doubt they'd ask too many questions if a strong stranger came into town offering help.

    He left the others, and told Interceptor to go, to sever every tie with his former life. That's how I interpret it, anyway.

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    A bit of an old topic but I just wanted to comment on the first question.

    As far as I recall, if you see all seven (I think it's 7) of Shadow's dreams, then he does survive Kefka's tower and if you don't, I think he dies. Baram was Shadow's partner when he was known as Clyde and was a Train robber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shad0w
    A bit of an old topic but I just wanted to comment on the first question.

    As far as I recall, if you see all seven (I think it's 7) of Shadow's dreams, then he does survive Kefka's tower and if you don't, I think he dies. Baram was Shadow's partner when he was known as Clyde and was a Train robber.
    It's a rumor, a false one. Shadow only has 5 dreams, which can be proven easily by hacking the game. His ending never changes, no matter what you do in the game (excluding, of course, the events on the Floating Continent).

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    Gogo and Umaro are standing at the end of the ship. You see them briefly when the screen zooms by.
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    You can see Gogo and Umaro in the ending, but only if you got them during the game. Gogo mimics Celes so he/she can stop over a swich in the floor, and Umaro... Well, I can't remember what Umarop did, but I remember him doing something in the ending.

    And it doesn't matter if Clyde (the person behind the cool ninja outfit) got out of Kefka's Tower, or stayed behind and died when the tower collapsed. Shadow died in that place.

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    Umaro busts through a wall or something, if I recall.

    I think that Shadow dies (literally).

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    It makes so much mroe sence if Shadow dies. He sends interecptor away to save him. Intercpetor also can then guard the others/relm. Shadow also wants to join his dead friend becasue he has realised the error of his ways.

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    It's intentionally vague, I think... would be interesting to find out what the japanese version says. I assume in the SkyRender version he lets out a series of f-bombs and insults Interceptor until he runs away.

    I think it would be quite hard to get out of that alive, though. Unless, of course, it did the infamous Suikoden thing where the final dungeon shakes like hell and then fails to fall over.

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