L'k'here, maw! I caught m'self a snow pawsum, hyuk hyuk! Git the young'uns cuz we's havin' uh'selves a smorgee'borg!Originally Posted by devilmaynotkickrsl
Thats messed up.
L'k'here, maw! I caught m'self a snow pawsum, hyuk hyuk! Git the young'uns cuz we's havin' uh'selves a smorgee'borg!
Thats messed up.
:monster2: One, AH! AH! Two, AH AH! Three, AH AH!
I know I never show much of a logical side to me, but I didn't find that very funny. Sorry.
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Like anything, i doubt that it's illogical.
If there is a population control issue, then this is a good thing. And then it makes sense. Most tourists likely are hunters.
But this really does sound bizarre. I make my living butchering pigs (Which are some of the coolest animals on the face of this earth) and cows (Which are truly beautiful and wonderful creatures). So I can generally take the killing of animals in stride if there's a reason. But this sounds really stupid. There's gotta be a larger picture than I'm being told.
Otherwise, this is the kind of stuff that gives power to maniacs like PETA. Only an idiot would risk giving evidence that people treat animals cruelly by actually treating animals cruelly.
Last edited by Martyr; 12-07-2004 at 07:03 PM.
When have peta ever treated animals cruelly?! And why does it make sense to kill seals because according to human beings who want to kill them, so they can eat more of there food or profit from it they are overpopulated? We are over populated and are causing REAL problems, not them.
Last edited by Anaisa; 12-07-2004 at 06:31 PM.
I feel bad saying that I am totally disgusted by this because I eat meat myself. My boss goes up north to go hunting every now and then and I always feel like telling him how cruel I think it is but then I realize that I'm eating the product of the act. I don't know, I think it's wrong to kill or eat animals but I was raised on it.
I rarely click links, but I just clicked this one.
I was under the impression that there were pictures of tourists smashing seals around with bats.
This is seal hunting for tourists.
WTF is everybody complaining about, exactly?
There's nothing about clubbing seals to death. If there's a seal overpopulation that is damaging the ecosystem, then it's even a better to start picking them off. (yes people are somewhat overpopulated, but that's an education issue. When I become a billionaire, I'll raise a massive agricultural education school across the world so we can squelch hunger forever and educate people. The only reason people starve or go bankrupt is because they're stupid. Or else because they've been robbed, but that's an unlikely scenario and it's one that most intelligent people should be able to recover from.)
But as for killing seals - so what? They're cute? Yeah. There's lots of cute seals. If they're a problem, we shouldn't let that interfere with our sense of doing what's right. If Norway can get tourists to do the killing, then why not make money instead of spend money to liquidate seal populations?
Of course, if you're all just a bunch of veetarians who are vegetarians because you don't support killing animals, then I know better than to try and debate or reason with that. So if that's the case, let's not argue.
Note: I may have been unclear. What I meant to say in my previous post was that it is my understanding that PETA is against the abusive treatment of animals. I meant that non-PETA people should continue to not mistreat animals to keep PETA from having valid arguments.
PETA mistreats animals, but the morons are too stupid to realize that they do it. For example, they bought a fat pig, raised for slaughter, to save it from slaughter. Now the poor tortured beast is tortured with life when it is too obese to live. Pigs will eventually get too large and it is more merciful to kill them and PETA doesn't understand that. (Farm pigs anyway. Wild boars live a different lifestyle, but PETA doesn't send pigs into the wild anyway)
Note 2: I have some personal beefs with PETA.
you were just punning all the way there.
death to PETA
Your sig is too hilarious and witty, thus i have removed it to protect the minds of all forum goers
-The allways inspiring leeza
Strange choice of words for such a touchy subject.I have some personal beefs with PETA
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How exactly are seals damaging the ecosystem?! Humans are the ones who are damaging the planet not seals. And as for all farm pigs getting to large to live thats just ridiculous. How fat a pig gets depends on what your feeding it, the same as with any animal, or person for that matter.
Poor seals.
There are 10 kinds of people. Those who understand binary and those who don't.
You don't know anything about pigs, I presume. I have about 50.
And I thought that somebody said something about seal/fish/polar bear populations making a mess. (Ecosystem). If that's why Norway is doing this, then it's very justifiable.
If this is mindless hunting, then I'm afraid that I don't really care. This is the 20th century. Nobody's going to hunt the dudes to extinction.
I said that how fat a pig gets depends on what your feeding it. And that means i know nothing about pigs does it?! Your telling me that no matter how little a pig eats its going to grow obese anyway! Thats ridiculous. And no if there were more seals it would not cause any trouble for the polar bears because polar bears eat both fish and seals. And there are species that have been made extinct in recent years and there are animals that are diminshing in number everyday and could quite easily be hunted to extinction. And just because a species isn't going to die out doesn't mean that its not cruel to kill it. If a human is murdered you don't hear people saying oh well, who cares?, we're not going to become extinct.To only have feeling for your own species is just callous.
I believe that animals are on Earth for the sole purpose of being utilized by humans. If seals in Norway are most appropriately utilized when they are being exterminated by tourists, then I don't feel like arguing.
I mean, what good is it to just have a bunch of seals lying around, wasting time on an icy beach? Huh? We could probably find a way to grow grass there, throw down some cows, and get some good beef out of the deal. I think somebody already said that seals were inedible.
Well, sheesh! What good are they then?
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Okay, so a lot of that was angry and semi-sarcastic. But I really don't think that you have a point. Callousness? Right. Again, I kill cows and pigs and I sell their meat. I mount their horns on mantlepieces and sell the skulls on ebay.
I do believe that the life of a human is worth far more than that of a seal. I mean, lot's of humans are stupid, but seals are still dumber. And more useless except for looking cute in some icy wasteland that I never plan to visit.
Again, there is nobody who will order the death of these seals for NO reason. So there's a purpose. I am confident in this. And that reason is probably more important than the lives of some seals. (No matter how "cute" or alive or helpless they are. Since when is helplessness a desirable trait anyway.)
The point is this is senseless killing of 1) a living creature and 2) a non-beneficial creature. Killing for sport is stupidity as it's just a waste of both capital and resources, both natural and otherwise. If there's a way you can use something to your benefit, you should. If you can't, why even bother it in the first place? We don't need seal fur to keep warm anymore, nor do we need fat to make oil. So why keep killing them? Cause it's fun?
PS: Overpopulation is a natural occurence solved in natural ways as long as man doesn't interfere. When man interfere's, weird stuff happens. The seal population is probably too large not because seals are becoming super seals, but because they're running out of places to live and their natural predators are being killed/scared off.
If you think the seals should be killed off for interfering with "our" ecosystem, then I think it's time to revisit biology class. If the planet is going to be fit to live on, we have to maintain it's cycle. When we screw with it, BAD STUFF HAPPENS.
Signature by rubah. I think.
Ugh.
Just root for WSPA. I'm indifferent. Take comfort in that I ain't jumping on a boat to hunt seals. I don't even hunt.
Anyway, I'm tired of this. We'll be running in circles soon if we debate too much.
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