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    I like McCain and Powell, but I also believe that Dean and Mrs. Clinton would be interesting choices. Obama would do well too, but as stated he lacks experience at the moment. I think I'd be content if any one of them were on the ballot. Actually, if two of them were on the final ballot, I'd be quite happy indeed.

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    Knowing America and knowing the stupidness and warmongering of your presidents could not be any higher I would have to say Ronald McDonald and Arnold Schwarzenegger.One is stupid and one is a warmonger.Maybe have a dual lead.It would complete it.

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    It wouldnt be right if the terminator was president. i mean, you wouldnt have american citizens be president or prime minister of france would you? i know it sounds racisit, and not granting equal rights to everyone, but i dont want to see arnold schwarzeneger in the presidential seat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawkey3
    It wouldnt be right if the terminator was president. i mean, you wouldnt have american citizens be president or prime minister of france would you? i know it sounds racisit, and not granting equal rights to everyone, but i dont want to see arnold schwarzeneger in the presidential seat.
    I dont understand what you are saying?Arnold Schwarzenegger is a citizen of USA, how else would he make it governor of california.

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    I think the law that only native-born citizens can run for President is rediculously outdated, but I, too, do NOT wish to see Schwarzenegger in the presidential seat. He's said before that he'd be emperor of the world if he could be, that ambition plus that much power is NOT something I want to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Behold the Void
    I think the law that only native-born citizens can run for President is rediculously outdated, but I, too, do NOT wish to see Schwarzenegger in the presidential seat. He's said before that he'd be emperor of the world if he could be, that ambition plus that much power is NOT something I want to see.
    Better Arnold Schwarzenegger than that ass of an idiot, warmonger George W Bush

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    I'm quite unfond of Bush, but that hasn't blinded me to other dangers.

    If a man says he would be emperor of the world if he could be, and is given one of the most powerful positions in the world, I can see him abusing that power. Remember, Hitler was elected in a democratic election. Now, I am not in any way saying that Schwarzenegger will be like Hitler was (note that I'm not saying he won't be either), but I AM saying that the factors are there that could cause quite a bad situation. Also, where Nazi Germany failed, America might yet succeed. We have huge stockpiles of nuclear weapons and a highly effective military. Were we to launch an offensive, it would be very hard to stop us.

    It's all well and good to dislike Bush for what he's done to our country, but one must remember that he isn't the only one out there who can do damage. Blind criticism of Bush whilst ignoring other threats is foolhardy to say the least. While I may have been considerered just another "anybody but Bush" person, you can be sure that I followed the candidates closely and simply deemed that John Kerry would have been a better choice than Bush, albeit not a stellar one. We need to be careful of who we vote for and not let our emotions so intrude upon us that it overrides our good sense.

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    You are going to launch an offensive one day anyway.Looking how your country pollutes the earth just because of their ideal.blabla you need two cars per family?You need your stomach full of all that junk food you eat everyday?I aint hinting on all the Americans but most of them.
    It is almost as if you hate the world and want to get rid of it ASAP.
    Maybe thats why Bush likes God so much.He is preparing for the afterlife.

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    Please refrain from using the word "you" when posting things like that, I find it offensive as an American to be stereotyped in such a way, just as I find it offensive that you would stereotype the people who live in my country in that way.

    Is Bush a good president? I wouldn't say so, some would disagree.

    It is almost as if you hate the world and want to get rid of it ASAP.
    And the evidence for this is what now? The invasion of Iraq? Or are you referring to the polution output? Nevermind, of course, that other countries such as Japan or China or Europe also put out massive quantities of pollution, by God all Americans are McDonald's-eating Gun-wielding obese morons who don't know one end of the remote from the other. So that means that they must be hell bent on destroying the world, it's not like any other country would do something like that.

    Maybe thats why Bush likes God so much.He is preparing for the afterlife.
    Err... this is supposed to be insulting? One of the major tenants of any religion is to love God (or the Gods) and to be granted an eternal reward in the afterlife. This applies to many faiths across the globe, and most certainly isn't some idiosyncrasy of Bush alone. Bush is a man of faith and, for better or for worse, he believes God is a guiding principle in his life. This is neither uncommon, nor automatically dangerous. However, in the case of Bush, I do find his justification through religion to be acutely disturbing and endangering of the country's laws of separation of Church and State. Deriding him for his faith alone, however, is both foolish and intolerant.

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    Please refrain from using the word "you" when posting things like that, I find it offensive as an American to be stereotyped in such a way, just as I find it offensive that you would stereotype the people who live in my country in that way.
    Sorry I stated it a little bit false.You are right about the "yous".Like I said I didnt feel that way about all Americans.Some of them are very nice, friendly folk.
    And the evidence for this is what now? The invasion of Iraq? Or are you referring to the polution output? Nevermind, of course, that other countries such as Japan or China or Europe also put out massive quantities of pollution, by God all Americans are McDonald's-eating Gun-wielding obese morons who don't know one end of the remote from the other. So that means that they must be hell bent on destroying the world, it's not like any other country would do something like that.
    You are right about China and Japan but Europe isnt as polluting as the USA.
    Sorry but for me whenever I see an American commercial(Top Shop is even here) or often when I see an American movie it seems so stupid and pointless to me that you cant even laugh or cry about it.All the movies seem so oriented on sex and violence(especially violence) or about the stupid American Ideal(which I hate).Also it aint just the movies.Bringing war into Iraq wasnt justified.Many people think about the 9/11 but they dont think about the around 100 000 civilian casualties that Iraq and Afganistan have suffered.And it aint just the casualties.Iraq's reputation for example also has probably been broken because of the Americans.Iraqi and Afganistanis have been insulted/put in shame infront of the other Islam believers for good as they have failed to defend their country from the invaders.And when you begin to think about the reason of the war you can only think about one thing:Oil.Yes no matter what lamented reason they brought as the reason of the war, the true reason to go there is getting more oil.And what will they do with the oil?
    Obvious.They will pollute the world even more.

    Err... this is supposed to be insulting? One of the major tenants of any religion is to love God (or the Gods) and to be granted an eternal reward in the afterlife. This applies to many faiths across the globe, and most certainly isn't some idiosyncrasy of Bush alone. Bush is a man of faith and, for better or for worse, he believes God is a guiding principle in his life. This is neither uncommon, nor automatically dangerous. However, in the case of Bush, I do find his justification through religion to be acutely disturbing and endangering of the country's laws of separation of Church and State. Deriding him for his faith alone, however, is both foolish and intolerant.
    He seems so pointlessly hung up on god, he is bringing it into his politics, which a modern leader shouldnt do.

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    You are right about China and Japan but Europe isnt as polluting as the USA.
    Sorry but for me whenever I see an American commercial(Top Shop is even here) or often when I see an American movie it seems so stupid and pointless to me that you cant even laugh or cry about it.All the movies seem so oriented on sex and violence(especially violence) or about the stupid American Ideal(which I hate).Also it aint just the movies.Bringing war into Iraq wasnt justified.Many people think about the 9/11 but they dont think about the around 100 000 civilian casualties that Iraq and Afganistan have suffered.And it aint just the casualties.Iraq's reputation for example also has probably been broken because of the Americans.Iraqi and Afganistanis have been insulted/put in shame infront of the other Islam believers for good as they have failed to defend their country from the invaders.And when you begin to think about the reason of the war you can only think about one thing:Oil.Yes no matter what lamented reason they brought as the reason of the war, the true reason to go there is getting more oil.And what will they do with the oil?
    Obvious.They will pollute the world even more.
    I am well aware of all of the things America has done, but that does not suddenly make them responsible for all the evils in the world. Europe DOES contribute to pollution, as does any industrialized nation. Furthermore, if you think only AMERICAN movies are oriented towards violence and sex, you are quite wrong. Those movies appear in just about every modernized country, in fact in Europe or Japan it is less taboo. While visiting London, and again in Paris, for example, I found pornography sold in the open, on newsstands and the like. You would NOT find such thing in America.

    He seems so pointlessly hung up on god, he is bringing it into his politics, which a modern leader shouldnt do.
    I already stated this but that is no reason to deride the man's faith, just the way he uses it in his politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Behold the Void
    I am well aware of all of the things America has done, but that does not suddenly make them responsible for all the evils in the world. Europe DOES contribute to pollution, as does any industrialized nation. Furthermore, if you think only AMERICAN movies are oriented towards violence and sex, you are quite wrong. Those movies appear in just about every modernized country, in fact in Europe or Japan it is less taboo. While visiting London, and again in Paris, for example, I found pornography sold in the open, on newsstands and the like. You would NOT find such thing in America.
    Not as much as America though.Also I dont think you are quite right about the movies.Most sex/violence movies I see here are all from Americans.Also what does it matter that no pornorgraphy is sold in the open in the USA when your everyday TV is full of it.The kids dont even have to look for it...

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    There is a difference between pornographic and suggestive material. What I saw being sold in Europe is pornographic, as in it portrayed nude people (primarily women) in a sexual manner. The suggestive material in America that tends to be open to the general public does not contain nudity. All pornography is sold in special shops where children are not allowed to purchase the material. Furthermore, America does have a degree of censorship, we have ratings attached to television shows, movies, and video games with clear-cut reasons why a certain movie, show or game has warranted said ratings.

    As far as television is concerned, certain times of the day and certain television stations show different things. Have you ever watched daytime children's television in America? It's so saccharine it is quite sickening. Other programming does exist, but again it is rated, and responsibility is left up to the parents to choose what their children can and cannot watch.

    With regards to the movie industry, Hollywood does make many violent and sexual movies, and they do make far more than are made in Europe. However, it is important to remember that the movie industry in America is MUCH bigger than it is in Europe, and thus America has the ability to turn out much more movies. America dominates the movie business, and thus most of the movies you see are American, just because those are what are more readily available.

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    If I would take 10 USA and european movies then I think there would be more sex and violence in the USA ones.Also I think this post has gone off topic and we all should stop .

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    somebody said mark warner? not Mark Warner. definitely no Mark Warner. I'm living in virginia, and at least around my area, people (liberal or conservative) can't stop whining and B****ing about how he's screwing crap up. I don't really follow the state politics though, it's a bit bland. however, iot would absolutely ROCK if the new mayor of richmond (Doug Wilder) got a shot, which he won't, unfortunately. he's about the most incendiary guy i've ever seen, but he's freaking brilliant. he's a political pit bull released on richmonds slack-@$$ city policies. everybody hates him. EVERYBODY. Except for the people the actually work in the trenches of the govt. my uncles RIchmond PD, and Wilder (before taking office no less) Ransacked upper management, and reassigned equipment and funds to proper departments, is busy refilling the spots of the slackers and chain whipping the rest of them to run at efficiency. it's magnificent. I'd get into some nice juicy specifics, but i don't want to get family in trouble ya know? Just suffice to say that he's worht a read. check out www.richmondtimesdispatch.com for some stuff, or look around. Doug Wilder, crazy psycho on the political warpath.

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