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    Reminds me of the 1952 election, where a reporter said to Adlai Stevenson, "You've got the support of every thinking man in America," to which Adlai responded, "That's not going to be enough." He lost. But since he's Gogo, it's chill.

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    Even if the stats were true, I don't seriously believe it makes sense. First, because I always thought IQ tests don't really give serious results. Second because I don't think someone with a high IQ has to actually make intelligent decisions, you may have a large capacity filled with idiocy. And lastly, because I don't think all Bush supporters are ignorant tards: I think Bush is, and I think his message is too, but some people may just believe him to be the lesser of two evils. I don't.

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    If you split the electoral votes it would be different, or somthing. Because there were people that voted for the opposite party then the party color of the state.

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    http://www.sq.4mg.com/stateIQ-income.htm
    http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/pac...es/smartstates

    ^ some other rankings

    I always thought the chart up top was suspect, because despite its reputation, Wisconsin consistently ranks among the more educated states, usually in the top 10.

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    That is complete and utter $hite, if only for the reason those numbers are seriously distorted. An average IQ of 85? You mean to tell me, most of the population suffers from mild retardation? And an average IQ of 113... that's equally impossible.

    The average IQ is 100. IQ tests are set so that this numbers remains constant. Yes, due to evolution and crap, today's 100 IQ points are worth more than yesterday's IQ points... but that's not the point.
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    IQ points go up with "evolution"? Isn't evolution related to natural selection? Haven't we stopped natural selection by techne?

    Plus, looking at the general panorama of the world today, I don't think IQ has gone specially up

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    Quote Originally Posted by War Angel
    That is complete and utter $hite, if only for the reason those numbers are seriously distorted. An average IQ of 85? You mean to tell me, most of the population suffers from mild retardation? And an average IQ of 113... that's equally impossible.

    The average IQ is 100. IQ tests are set so that this numbers remains constant. Yes, due to evolution and crap, today's 100 IQ points are worth more than yesterday's IQ points... but that's not the point.
    A friend of mine showed me this a week or so ago, and I had pretty much the exact same reaction.

    And if you think this is funny, you're just a butthead. People have their own instincts and they went with them, just like you went with yours. So yours turned out to be the lesser felt instinct. Deal with it, and stop trying to call all Bush supporters stupid.

    I have several friends who happen to have voted for Bush, and believe me they can run intellectual circles around many Kerry supporters I've had the misfortune to meet.

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    you can be certain and still be wrong.

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    IQ points go up with "evolution"? Isn't evolution related to natural selection? Haven't we stopped natural selection by techne?
    You don't think the human race evolved? Humans are taller, our limbs are longer, and our skulls (and brains) are larger. This isn't only because of evolution, but also technological advancements, like nutrition and medicine. But, we are evolving... it may not be in a staggering pace, but we still are.

    "The sum of IQ points in the world hasn't changed, but the population has. "
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    As much as id like to beileve this too be true, im gonna have to take a page out fo the Dr. Unne book, something i read him write in response to something like this.

    Its called Post hoc ergo prompter hoc which means After this therfore because of this. Though id really like to beileve it was true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomgaze
    http://www.sq.4mg.com/stateIQ-income.htm
    http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/pac...es/smartstates

    ^ some other rankings

    I always thought the chart up top was suspect, because despite its reputation, Wisconsin consistently ranks among the more educated states, usually in the top 10.
    Even these are somewhat imperfect, because it's based, for the first one, on the population taking the SAT/ACT tests, which means that all the people who didn't are unaccounted for, and even then, we don't know how linked is the population that took the SAT test, and the population that voted. Example: Iowa (this chart, scores an average "IQ calculated from SAT" of 113, but with only 5% of the population taking the SAT.

    The CNN one has a similar problem by measuring the education "quality" (which means current schooled people), whic isn't exactly representative of the voting population. Note that the CNN one doesn't try to link it to votes or whatever, I'm just saying you couldn't use it for that purpose.

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