Tiamat-Bahamut = connection?

[Itsunari 2000]

Ok , this has really intrigued me for sometime now ,but I've always suspected if there's any kind of connection between Tiamat and Bahamut. The similarity between the two , at least physically , is pretty obvious.

Is Tiamat really a future version of Bahamut enslaved and corrupted by Ultimecia , to do her bidding ?Or just a " dark " Bahamut created by her in the King of the Dragons image ?

Discuss.

[Ultima Shadow]

I prefere to call Timat "Bahamuts evil twin".

[Chris]

The Tiamat in FFVIII looks like Bahamut but the original Tiamat looks nothing like Bahamut at all.

[Rinoa_Galatea]

That's true Chris. However, Tiamat (as I understeanded) is like a futuristic version of Bahamut. Tiamat used to be a good Guardian Force, until Ultimecia corrupted him. The truth is, I don't know where's Tiamat from, or even when he appeared on the FFVIII world, but that's what you read when you Scan Tiamat "This Guardian Force Used To Be Good, Until Ultimecia Corrupted Him" or something like that. The image doesn't care, it's a game ^^!

[BG-57]

I was wondering, with all the R=U threads running around, why not a B=T thread?

It's certainly possible. Since Ultimecia is (SPOILER) from the future, theoretically all her servants might merely be corruptions of present day characters. Tiamat's 'Dark Flare' attack is a dark version of Bahamut's 'Mega Flare'.

The most intriguing line about Tiamat is it mentions 'A GF corrupted by Ultimecia', without specifying a GF in particular. So it's also possible that Tiamat was always a GF distinct from Bahamut. There's no reason to suppose that the party owns all the GF's out there. Tiamat could even exist in their time. I even wrote a fanfiction where Tiamat is Cid's GF.

But in the end, like R=U, the evidence is not overwhelming. I like the idea of Bahamut and Tiamat at least being related. Family feuds make for dramatic storylines.

[FatedChild]

Does anyone think that it's coincidence that Eden is located in the Deep Sea Research centre near Bahumat, and then later can be drawn from Taimat?

[Braindead_Paul]

AND Bahamut lives above a Weapon just like Tiamat.

So UW = OW!

[Itsunari 2000]

Stumbled across an interesting piece of information : Tiamat is a beast who appears in ancient Babylonian mythology as a vile serpent who terrorized mortal man until the emergence of Marduk (also Bella Marduk), a great warrior. Slaying Tiamat ,Marduk used the serpent's body to divide heaven and earth , cutting out his eyes and scattering them into the cosmos ( one becoming the moon , the other the sun). Other GFs and assorted Eidolons that appear in the FF series can be traced to gods and deities of ancient mythology( Odin , Ramuh , Gilgamesh , Shiva etc.)

[Chris]

Tiamat is actually Bahamut that Ultimecia transformed into a monster.
It was Squall, Rinoa and the other that had Bahamut.

When you scan Tiamat you get:

Tiamat
Used to be a GF. Became a monster under Ultimecia's power.
Its Dark Flare destroys all enemies.
Not only they look exactly the same to the exception of the color.
(Which is due to the transformation Ultimecia/Rinoa did to them)
But there is also their attack.
Bahamut attack ? Mega Flare.
Tiamat attack ? Dark Flare.

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

Tiamat is not necessarily Bahamut. If it were, it'd probably have been called Dark Bahamut, like in FFIV. Just because Tiamat was turned evil at some point doesn't mean its name was changed. It was always Tiamat.

[Ultima Shadow]

But isn't it strange that Timat is so damn much weaker than Bahamut?
And if they're the same... then shouldn't Timat be named "Dark Bahamut" instead or something?
I still think they're just twins.

[Chris]

Yeah Tiamat was a walkover, Aura-Renzokuken = dead Tiamat.

[Auronhart]

Yeah, a total pushover, you can even absorb dark flare.

[Mo-Nercy]

Does anyone think that it's coincidence that Eden is located in the Deep Sea Research centre near Bahumat, and then later can be drawn from Tiamat?

In the future, Bahamut eventually defeats all the Ruby Dragons in that place and changes class to Tiamat, at which point he kills Ultima Weapon and draws Eden from him. Duh.

[Rusty]

I doubt that Tiamat is Bahamut turned evil in the game. Other than the fact that you can use Bahamut to kill Tiamat. That would mean he could kill himself in the future. I'm not sure how that works.

http://members.lycos.co.uk/aspara/baha.htm

Tiamat is actually female and is the goddess of the chromatic (evil) dragons, while Bahamut is the god of the metallic (good) dragons.

Tiamat would still have been a Guardian Force in the game corrupted by Ultimecia, except that she's always been Tiamat, not Bahamut.

Thats just how I see it anyway