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[Doomgaze]

Demi is Gravity elemental, which is very similar to Shadow, yes.

[Jolts]

[q=Doomsday]Doomsday is better than Doomsday sword. Equipping your party with Shdaow absorbing armor completely heals them and heavily damages the enemy. It can be very useful against Ozma.[/q]
Yeah, but if you don't want to use that equipment, then go with Doomsday Sword, and doesn't Ozma absorb shadow as well...but I guess it would still help for the shadow attack that he does (which might even be Doomsday, I've never actually fought Ozma, but I read all about it), if that's what you meant.

[UltimaLimit]

Doomsday, strictly speaking, isn't a spell.

Blast, you're right! I was thinking Darkside, sorry. Curse you Steiner!

[DJZen]

Demi is Gravity elemental, which is very similar to Shadow, yes.

If by "shadow" you mean "the force which draws all objects toward the earth at the same rate" then yes, shadow and gravity ARE very similar.

FF has a plethora of spells which aren't strictly speaking "elemental" but act like they are anyway. Death is a good example. Death is not an "element". You can't do "death damage" to anyone. However, there are a lot of enemies throughout the FF games that have resistance to "death" spells.

However, there ARE earth and wind elementals, they're just incredibly useless. In fact, if you want to see the full list of elements, just go to a character's status screen in FFVII and scroll through until you get to the attribute defense section. Fire, Ice, Bolt, Water, Earth, Wind, Poison, Shadow and Holy are all there as I recall, and possibly some others as well.

[Jolts]

Death isn't used as an elemental in any FF game. It's more of a status effect, and there just happens to be a "Death" skill for the sole purpose of causing that status effect, and they can't just have every enemy suseptable to such a skill, so they make some immune. Except, of course, in FFVIII case, where all elementals and status effects have a percentage to work (0 will never work on them, 100 will work everytime, and anything in between is calculated randomly by the percentage given).

FFVII's elementals are: Fire, Ice, Bolt, Earth, Gravity, Poison, Water, Wind, and Holy. No Shadow.

[UltimaLimit]

In fact, if you want to see the full list of elements, just go to a character's status screen in FFVII and scroll through until you get to the attribute defense section. Fire, Ice, Bolt, Water, Earth, Wind, Poison, Shadow and Holy are all there as I recall, and possibly some others as well.

I know. But I'm talking about being able to use them, as Magic Materia (or the equivelant of it in other FFs).

[Flashback007]

FFVII's elementals are: Fire, Ice, Bolt, Earth, Gravity, Poison, Water, Wind, and Holy. No Shadow.

Is Poison an elemental?? I don't agree on that, or at least. With elemental I understand the forces of nature like fire, ice, bolt, earth, water and wind. I don't really ever found Gravity, Poison or Holy an elemental. So maybe that is mine opinion, but I think that for sure Gravity and Poison aren't real elementals. Holy is a different story, like I said before I think that Holy is somewhat the ultimate white elemental. And that would make then an other spell the ultimate dark elemental. I am thinking about Doomsday, Ultima or Flare. Poison is a statusspell and not a elemental for me. And Gravity yeah I don't know how to describe Gravity but for me it isn't a elemental. But my defenition of elementals could be completly wrong, because ofcourse Gravity is also a force of nature. But I don't find it elemental like Fire for example. Gravity is something that you cannot touch, the other are. And Poison is something that is brought foward by nature, but it isn't a force of nature in my eyes.

[robfinalfantasy]

And then X had Water, Watera, and Waterga.

What was the 5th element in X?

Holy perhaps?

Holy has always been my favorite. As long as they keep that one in, I'm fine. Having a lot of elements is neat though.

My understanding is that Holy in FFX is non-elemental (sounds crazy huh?). Holy simply doesn't appear in the enemy stats when checking for weaknesses.

[Zante]

Althoug it isn't shown, some enemies have a weakness against holy.

[Remnant]

I just wish there was a reliable third tier for the air/water spells.

Like in VIII for example- Aero to Tornado to ______ (I mean, unless you count Pandemonea, but that is not a spell per se)

Water had only water, and leviathan. Though, water is usually redundant with ice anyway, so not too big a deal.

[Jolts]

[q=SephirothNL]Is Poison an elemental??[/q]
The way I see it, they're only elementals because they're in the list. They're more of a damage factor, since Bio did damage and possibly cause the poison status effect, and some enemies had strengths or weaknesses to the "elemental" aspect of Bio. Same goes with enemies having strengths or weaknesses to Gravity (that thing that hangs off of a chain in the Shinra Mansion is weak to Gravity, so Demi2 or Laser will be an instant death for it ).