Why the heck do people call Final Fantisy VII a good game!?

[Wuggly Blight]

If ff8 didnt surpase ff7 for graphics, they wouldnt let it out, Square has a standard to surpass, As better and newer technology became avilable, and the limits of the ps1 was explored more it would obviously get better graphics wise.

[edczxcvbnm]

I thought the Legend of Zelda: orcana of time. Got voted best game of 1997.

That game came out in 98 and it won game of the year that year

I want to comment on the texture space and all that. All of FFVII would have easily fit on to one disc if it were not for the FMVs. I believe if you use game shark and use the debug room you can do any story part with out changing disc as long as there is no FMV. Xenogears was the same was. ALL of xenogears was on one disc but they had to split it into 2 because of FMV.

[Chris]

Seriously, i have NO IDEA!!! What do you people see in this game!?

Visual rating: 3/10
all i saw were some pretty backgrounds, and characters that look like they were the greatest 3d acheivements on a damn SNES! The CG looks great, the models look just like syphon filter 3, except syphon filter did not have as a nice texturing, but then again this is CG, not the actual game models you play with. THOSE are a damn joke! they are boxy, the dude with the huge sword..well, his hands, seem slightly separate from his body, the sword twirl gets old after the first three battles you win, the enemies are stupid looking, and the attacks are worse! THe most laughable thing is when they try and add actual facial expressions to these people, OMG that is just so funny because they do it so badly!

Sound: 2/10
They have 5 tracks, each song about 3-4 minutes in length, and i swear, if i didn't turn off the sound and put on my favorite radio station i would go INSANE!!! a damn game that has nice CG cut scenes and spans 3 freaken disks should not have mysic that sucks so badly. and don't give my any BS that you are supposed to play the game with no sound and the radio on, the sound is supposed to help emerse you in the experience, not water it down!

Gameplay: 1/10
OH wow...it's just horrible, and i have played some bad turn based games (anyone remember pokemon?). the random battles are annoying, especially if you have a 10:00 time limit before you bomb goes off. at least turn that damn fearure off during that one part!!! DAMN!!! as if that weren't bad enough, the controls are both clunky and bad. on screen you character wanders around, and you get lost easily becuase the background is drawn so well you have no freaken clue what is an exit, and what isn't. and if your charcter is not being hung up on an invisible wall, or box, or...air, then we would have slightly less of a problem. in battle, using hte same repedative attacks so early in the game is just not right. sword guy uses bolt, black dude using gatling gun, and everyone wins no matter what. the largest ammount of strategy is knowing when to use elixer and potion. wow...so hard...the ps1 is capable of so much more....

Story: ? (it's gonna be low)/10
What is the story? i know that like 40 minutes into a game like this you should know a bit more than you do, and on top of that, what is with the text boxes? i have seen what the ps1 can do, and guess what!? it supports VOICE!!! some voice and subtitles would have gone a long way in helping me give a damn about reactors sapping away the planets magical energy or life fore or whatever. as far as "character building" goes...i have no seen any. and to think, i thought i was going to get something good when i read so many rave reviews. i want to get into final fantasy, i really do, but clearly VII is NOT the game for me.

OVERALL SCORE: 3/10
Why do they like it so much? how could this game have made final fantasy go mainstream and become a masterpiece for the ps1 that like everyone who has ever liked turn based RPG/stragety should own? the graphics suck, the sound is worse, the gameplay is horrible, and i am doubtful anyone really cares about the plot, or cannot stand the first three to the extent they play through enough to start giving a damn.

so plese, fanatical fans of this board, just tell me, why? be civilized about it, i have written like 5 paragraphs from the heart about why this is not a good game, and why it should have never made FF so popular. but now you, the people who like it, tell me why you think i am wrong, or better yet, people who hate it tell me why i am right. or find some possiton between the two. but just tell me why....

Cut the rudeness and flaming. This is a warning. ~ Leeza

[Vivi Orunitia]

I agree with DJZen about the graphics, but I liked the story line for a ps1 game and they had some good summons.

[Ryth]

What! You don't like this game!? I know your entitled to your own opinion but still! I agree with you about the character models but this was 1997 (or was it 1996?) this is early Playstation the beginning of the 3D era give it a break! The story is good it takes some time to understand it but you'll understand as long as your not a total idiot you'll find out it's a great story. Yes some of the music was damned annoying but overall it was pretty good! I can't believe you hated Materia I loved the customizing and building up it was cool. Speaking of materia just in case some of you didn't know if you sell a mastered All materia you get 1.2 million gil!! ! You'll be swimming in cash (unless you blow it all at the Chocobo Racing section of the Gold Saucer).

[riphawk]

Seriously, i have NO IDEA!!! What do you people see in this game!?

Visual rating: 3/10
all i saw were some pretty backgrounds, and characters that look like they were the greatest 3d acheivements on a damn SNES! The CG looks great, the models look just like syphon filter 3, except syphon filter did not have as a nice texturing, but then again this is CG, not the actual game models you play with. THOSE are a damn joke! they are boxy, the dude with the huge sword..well, his hands, seem slightly separate from his body, the sword twirl gets old after the first three battles you win, the enemies are stupid looking, and the attacks are worse! THe most laughable thing is when they try and add actual facial expressions to these people, OMG that is just so funny because they do it so badly!

Sound: 2/10
They have 5 tracks, each song about 3-4 minutes in length, and i swear, if i didn't turn off the sound and put on my favorite radio station i would go INSANE!!! a damn game that has nice CG cut scenes and spans 3 freaken disks should not have mysic that sucks so badly. and don't give my any BS that you are supposed to play the game with no sound and the radio on, the sound is supposed to help emerse you in the experience, not water it down!

Gameplay: 1/10
OH wow...it's just horrible, and i have played some bad turn based games (anyone remember pokemon?). the random battles are annoying, especially if you have a 10:00 time limit before you bomb goes off. at least turn that damn fearure off during that one part!!! DAMN!!! as if that weren't bad enough, the controls are both clunky and bad. on screen you character wanders around, and you get lost easily becuase the background is drawn so well you have no freaken clue what is an exit, and what isn't. and if your charcter is not being hung up on an invisible wall, or box, or...air, then we would have slightly less of a problem. in battle, using hte same repedative attacks so early in the game is just not right. sword guy uses bolt, black dude using gatling gun, and everyone wins no matter what. the largest ammount of strategy is knowing when to use elixer and potion. wow...so hard...the ps1 is capable of so much more....

Story: ? (it's gonna be low)/10
What is the story? i know that like 40 minutes into a game like this you should know a bit more than you do, and on top of that, what is with the text boxes? i have seen what the ps1 can do, and guess what!? it supports VOICE!!! some voice and subtitles would have gone a long way in helping me give a damn about reactors sapping away the planets magical energy or life fore or whatever. as far as "character building" goes...i have no seen any. and to think, i thought i was going to get something good when i read so many rave reviews. i want to get into final fantasy, i really do, but clearly VII is NOT the game for me.

OVERALL SCORE: 3/10
Why do they like it so much? how could this game have made final fantasy go mainstream and become a masterpiece for the ps1 that like everyone who has ever liked turn based RPG/stragety should own? the graphics suck, the sound is worse, the gameplay is horrible, and i am doubtful anyone really cares about the plot, or cannot stand the first three to the extent they play through enough to start giving a damn.

so plese, fanatical fans of this board, just tell me, why? be civilized about it, i have written like 5 paragraphs from the heart about why this is not a good game, and why it should have never made FF so popular. but now you, the people who like it, tell me why you think i am wrong, or better yet, people who hate it tell me why i am right. or find some possiton between the two. but just tell me why....

That was really not called for, do not flame other members. Consider this a warning. ~Matty

[Halenite]

Gregoriev, you should never write a review until you've beaten the game.
If you play the game two minutes then write a review, you'll never get a good review for the game.

Otherwise, I say welcome back.

[edczxcvbnm]

Gregoriev, you should never write a review until you've beaten the game.
If you play the game two minutes then write a review, you'll never get a good review for the game.

Otherwise, I say welcome back.

You do realize that reviewers never beat 99% of the games they play before they review it. They may get far or not. They might cheat to do it. But they don't really finish playing them for the most part. Too many games and not enough time.

[Auronhart]

Based on story alone, not graphics, halo also has a freaken awsome story, but about 99% of the time you are just shooting stuff and hearing people issue commands to you. FF8 really so bad story wise that you could condense it to about 3 pages of typed 12pt text?

FFVIII is controversial, you either love it or hate it. Personally, I think you should play it without listening to what anyone else says and make your own opinion. (and not on the first little bit)

[Nephiliam]

I loved this game, it had a great story, great characters and great bosses. I don't understand how people can not like it.. but everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess. =/

[BackRoomKid]

Sound: 2/10
They have 5 tracks, each song about 3-4 minutes in length, and i swear, if i didn't turn off the sound and put on my favorite radio station i would go INSANE!!! a damn game that has nice CG cut scenes and spans 3 freaken disks should not have mysic that sucks so badly. and don't give my any BS that you are supposed to play the game with no sound and the radio on, the sound is supposed to help emerse you in the experience, not water it down!

Out of all the things you wrote, Sound/Music is what I kinda agree with you. Troughout all the songs, it always kept like a high-pitch kinda flute and that really annoyed me a lot. Yes, I did put on different music. But when it came to Aeris' Death Scene, you can't argue with that composition taken from FFVI, just an awesome re-make. The World Map song, both the happy and sad, was really good. One Winged Angel of course is just awesome, hands down one of the best. But other than that, yeah, I'd have to agree with the music thing...just didn't hit me like other FF's.

Final Fantasy's with great music: FFVI, FFVIII, and FFX

[bEoWuLfX]

yeah I think ff8 had terrible music, I seriously think they only had like 5 songs, which they varied to make it sound like more. the song at the seed ball is the chocobo dance song. I really couldn't take the ff8 world map music and I think the ragnarok theme song was really annoying. I think 7 had better music, but not better sound quality.

[Auronhart]

yeah I think ff8 had terrible music, I seriously think they only had like 5 songs, which they varied to make it sound like more. the song at the seed ball is the chocobo dance song. I really couldn't take the ff8 world map music and I think the ragnarok theme song was really annoying. I think 7 had better music, but not better sound quality.

FFVIII has a lot of good tracks that you seem to be overlooking, the good overrides the not so good tracks pretty easily. (such as the world map one(one of the few not so good tracks)) There are many more than five songs which are not variations of each other.

[Halenite]

edczxcvbnm, I was just pointing out that reviews are alost never good if that does happen and it never should happen.

[=Angelus=]

Out of all the things you wrote, Sound/Music is what I kinda agree with you. Troughout all the songs, it always kept like a high-pitch kinda flute and that really annoyed me a lot.

Hey!! i liked the flute... it sorta had that hero feel to it... esp during the battle theme.. sometimes i would time my limit breaks to just in time with the flute too!! made it more meaningful to me

Oh ya.. use hypers on your characters!! it pumps your limit break more when you get hit!!