Squall or cloud?

[seraphcloud]

Yeah, they'd just swing thier swords and everybody else'll be too scared to move. "Zell! You're pissing your pants!" Plus, together, with Lionheart and Omnislash, the damage is ummeasurable. All we need now are all of those goddamn bahamuts

TO MUCH GOT DAMN DAMAGE IF THEY DO FIGHT THEYE'R FREAKIN IDIOTS

[Faris]

Or maybe it'll go a little something like this

Seppy: You're challenging me?
Omega: OOOOH Yeah
Seppy: Bring it on!
Omega: (Starts his attack when Cloud comes in)
Cloud: Hey, what about me? I thought I was gonna beat you up
Seppy: (Sighs) For the love of meteors Cloud, must you?
Cloud: It's just that Nanaki is getting very irritated and is beginning to use Barret as a scratching post
(Omega weapon, annoyed, blows everything to bits and ancidentally blows himself up)
Seppy: Take that! You're so stupid you blew yourself up! (Laughs evilly for ten hours)
Cloud: Now you'll deal with us!
(Cloud and company defeat Seppy)

Well, Seppy vs Omega is kind of like...I don't know. Maybe Seppy couldn't win, but then again, Squall could...but Squall was stronger...Go Omega weapon...(nervous glance towards RSLchick)

OR.....
sephy: i'm gonna KILL YOU
Omga: not another one *hands a bomb to sephy* could you hold this for a momment i'll be right back
Sephy: *who i a little confused* wtf
*omega leaves room*
SFX: BBBOOOOMMMM!!!!
*omega looks back into the room*
omega: pitty it's like all the other ones.... *omega is soon depressed because he has no friends*

[ljkkjlcm9]

sheesh, this is kinda a stupid topic, for many, many reasons, and also because you can't really speculate about it.

Firstly, Sephiroth is not better than Cloud, nor can he ever be, Sephiroth is worse than every character you can have in your party. Seriously think about it, any character can do 9999, he can't do that or he'd kill you one hit, just the fact that he's not on your team means he is weaker, more health, but everything else weaker.

Seifer works the same way.

Now as for Cloud vs. Squall, i c no point in arguing it. Someone said GFs versus Materia, well i think it's obvious there. Materia decreases some stats and raises others, while GFs are only used to help your characters, so obviously GFs in FFVIII are better for the characters than the materia is.

Squall vs. Cloud... sheesh this is funny, why were these the two chosen characters out of every single FF game ever made?

I mean honestly... oh and by the way for all you Sephiroth Fans, KEFKA was the best enemy, he was just crazy cool, and his song, and his laugh, yeah he was crazy, I mean he changed the entire world, just damn crazy.

SO as for the topic of cloud vs. Squall, obviously you're gonna have them both at their best, and it's easier to max stats in FFVIII than in FFVII though I did in both. Obviously they're gonna have their best weapons, and obviously they're gonna have their best materia/GF.

But honestly people, if you're just going with limit breaks, I do think Lion Heart is better, but when Cloud does a limit break, you know he'll do Omnislash, when Squall does, it's random, and he may never actually do it, so by limit break alone, Cloud is better for the actual move, Squall is better because he can use it more often... and in FFVIII Squall's gunblade actually ends up hurting him... If you ever max stats with everyone... everyone doess 9999 no matter what, and he only does it with correct triggering, so, in that way it hurts him... personally I think Squall was a cooler character and liked his development better than Cloud's. Cloud is what he is because someone made him that way, Squall is what he is because he pushed himself to that point, he fought for it, and he earned it. Squall is by far a cooler main character, but sadly thinking about it, if for some random reason they fought automatically using their best attacks completely maxed out, they'd each do 1 damage a hit, honestly. They'd both do 1 damage roughly cause strength 255 and defense 255, so yeah. I mean when I maxed stats even Sephiroth was only doing a few hundred and Ultimicea was as well, in fact, Omega weapon couldn't hurt me enough in FFVIII and Ruby and Emerald couldn't in FFVII

[Lyndiny 1445 4eva]

now dat was a decent bloody reply 2 right m8 u hav gd points, but theyd never fight coz dar both gd but hey its summin 2 tlk about. personaly i think squall would win if they could do what they want coz i meanclouds all slash slash look at me i hav a sword da size of me an squall would be out smarting him and hitting with sum powerful hits so.... u no lol

[Auronhart]

Omega weapon couldn't hurt me enough in FFVIII

He still can hurt you with maxed stats. Terra break still would wipe your entire party out without protect. With protect it would just kill at least one character and waste the others. You can still recover from it fairly easily, but it still crushes quite a bit. (unless you use defend) He is easy to kill with a maxed stats party, but you won't survive long if you just leave your characters in a battle with him.

[Devourment]

I would say Squall for his Mecenary attitude, his solitary being, his f*** you attitude, & his desire to not rely on other people & let other people rely on him. That is exactaly like me!!

[ljkkjlcm9]

He still can hurt you with maxed stats. Terra break still would wipe your entire party out without protect. With protect it would just kill at least one character and waste the others. You can still recover from it fairly easily, but it still crushes quite a bit. (unless you use defend) He is easy to kill with a maxed stats party, but you won't survive long if you just leave your characters in a battle with him.

Uhm he can't hurt you much when you maxed stats by devouring and are still at a very low level... just so you know...
oh right, and auto-protect

[Auronhart]

Uhm he can't hurt you much when you maxed stats by devouring and are still at a very low level... just so you know...
oh right, and auto-protect

No, he is always level 100 in the PS version. Being low level won't save you.

[Destination0]

oh this is a never ending question
omnislash vs lionheart...
I prefer lionheart

[Del Murder]

If Squall was level 100 Cloud could just beat him with Lvl 5 Doom!

[Auronhart]

If Squall was level 100 Cloud could just beat him with Lvl 5 Doom!

Unless I am getting really confused, I think there is only a Level 5 Death in FF7, not Doom. (death used to be called doom in earlier FF's, but they are not the same thing anymore) If it is level 5 death, Squall can be immune to it. (just junction Death to status def (Omega weapon uses this)) If there is actually a level 5 doom, then I will agree that if Squall cannot kill Cloud fast enough, (and using a pocketstation to get Ribbon for Squall was not an option) then cloud would win. The funny thing is, that Cloud could probably succeed in giving himself a 50% chance of winning. All he has to do is use roulette. (which I don't think either of them can be immune to)
P.S. Welcome back Del Murder! We missed your habit of closing pointless threads.

[novarta]

if they would fight and they had all stats as high as they can be, they couldn´t maybe hurt each other, because isn`t that so if the vitality and all defense helpping stats of character is 255 he can not be wounded or hurted anyway.

[Del Murder]

I interchange Death and Doom to mean the same thing, which, of course, they don't. So S-Def-J would work.

What if Cloud used Sneak Attack + KotR. No defense for that one!

[Garnet236]

I think I will vote Squall....that's just because at first...before he met Rinoa...he was a very serious person....even after he met rinoa...he still is....but slowly he changes his personality....Anyway...I voted Squall all the way!!

[fuuijinmon zell]

Cloud has the big sword.
Yet Squall's is long distance.
Cloud could block it with his sword.
But Cloud wouldn't have much of an offense.
Squall would be faster sinse his Gunblade is smaller.
Squall most likely