squall vs seifer

[Skyblade]

Squall>Seifer

In the opening video, Seifer uses Fire Cross on Squall to give him a scar, and Squall immediately counters and gives Seifer one going the other way (the opposites theme again, anyone?).

In every following battle, Seifer gets his @$$ handed to him on a silver platter.

Even assuming they both had equal stats (255 in everything, 9999 HP), and neither used limit breaks, Squall would win. Seifer doesn't use his gunblade properly 50% of the time, and often seems more intent on taunting Squall than fighting. Squall has a much more serious and professional attitude, so he would win.

[Masamune·1600]

Squall, and it's not even close. To me, Seifer is synonymous with "incompetent."

[Swordicanus]

seifer would kick squall's ass if squall did'nt have his friend's with him all the time SEIFER RULES

[Camanche]

I never saw Seifer to be extremely weak as the rest of you seem to. Say he was able to train/equip himself in the same manner that Squall does. (GF, Weapons Upgrades, etc.) If he was able to do those things I think he would stand a fighting chance against Squall. Actually, I believe his statistics are naturally better then Squall's.

And to compare how Seifer fights, when put up against in-game mechanics seems somewhat unfair. Overall, I'd say they are quite even until later in the game when Squall's training and advancement opportunities far outweigh Seifer's. Then Squall becomes rather overpowered.

But yes, if we look at them, and don't factor in the idea of the game battles, I think they are supposed to be quite even, storywise. Thay are close rivals until Seifer completely loses his way to the Sorceress.

[Dolentrean]

Seifer was bent on power and was willing to do whatever he needed to get it. he lost his was and squall remained ture and focused! they were rivals and were equal in states through most of the game. but the one thing that stood out to me is that seifer trained and fought constantly to beat squall an pushed himself to his limit to become powerful. Squall became powerful on his own accord and still managed to beat seifer. Seifer wanted to win more than Squall to prove himself, yet Squall fought knowing that he had to win for what he knew was right.

[Camanche]

Well, I agree with most of that. Except I don't think that Squall simply thought himself to be "right", per say. He didn't seem to see things in a purely "right or wrong" perspective, which is partly why I found him to be such a fascinating character. Actually, I thought Seifer was fascinating too, and also think that he is underrated/misunderstood quite often.

[Swordicanus]

besides squall is supposed to beat him in the game all the time because duh he's the main character and it would be boring to be beaten by him all the time the reason squall beats him is because he's supposed to for the story in a straight fight however and because i like him seifer would win i'm not going to just be another sheep and follow the squall brigade i think squall is boring and at least seifer has more life to him even if he is the bad guy in i'd have prefered to have been Seifer instead of squall as it would make for a more intresting story imagine playing as Seifer with raijin and fuijin with you that would rock there would also be a kind of love story between him and Rinoa we see there already was in ff8 anyway so that could be backed up actually why can't there be a ff in which you are the bad guy it would be more intresting and a good change instead of always being a blonde haired goody-two-shoes all the time

[Camanche]

Um, Squall's not blonde, but Seifer is.

I can't even say that one of them are a goody-two-shoes either. Neither of them are, really.

I thought they were both fascinating characters. Seifer had more 'life' in him that he physically vented out on the world, while Squall kept things to himself. It was sometimes interesting to hear his inner monologues. It was too bad we never got into Seifer's head though.

[Dolentrean]

Squall never wanted to be the hero, he kind of wound up with the role of the hero after eveyone else forced in on him. Seifer wanted to be in the spotlite. Squall was a good person but wasent sure if being the hero was worth it.

[Swordicanus]

i meant most of the ff main characters are blonde e.g Tidus.cloud.zidane.Vann etc

[Camanche]

Well, if we look at all the FF's I don't think that that would be the case, but I could be wrong. *forgets*

I see your point though. Their has been a recent surge of blonde, male protagonists. Squall being the only break. Silly Square.

[Hexarar]

IF they were fighting alone, as we see they do in the starting movie, it would pry end up into draw, as we see in the starting movie, 'cos Squall is more, so to say, furious or spirited fighter, but Seifer 'fights dirty' aka uses whatever technique available. Do some people really call that cheating? When you're fighting for your life u will do right like seifer (cheat?) and if u never fight with full potential u won't know how much u are able to do. If u don't know your potential, u won't be able to use it.
BTW, Seifer uses Fire Cross (limit break) and Squall counters with Rough Divide (limit break). So, sure everyone must agree they both 'cheat'. And I don't think that kind of cheating is bad, but just in case someone says something like: "Squally cheated only because big bad Seifer started it" I would want to ask 'If your friend jumps into well and kicks the bucket, u see it and follow her, won't u be even more stupid than your friend, may she rest in peace?'
Okay, quess that is all i am able to explain in english. Ain't that just too bad there are no topics like this in FFFin forums.
Seifer is survivor, Squall is 'fair fighter' who bites the dust if he has to fight alone for his life.
If this post o'mine makes someone angry, i want to apologise. It might be 'cos my mother tongue isn't english and thus I have not been able to explain myself properly. Plus that I'm a n00b.

[SeeDRankLou]

In the opening scene, it appeared as though Squall was fighting with everything he had and Seifer was just kind of playing with him, not really trying as best he could. The only time he looks at all like he needs to fight back is when Squall renzokukens him. Not to mention that Seifer can block all of Squall's two-handed gunblade swings holding his gunblade with just a single hand. He obviously has the power advantage. Squall is however far more cunning that Seifer is, and he would eventually find a way to beat him. So I think Squall would win, but he will be left barely standing when he does.

[Chris]

I'd probably go with Squall on this one. Squall has his hard-blowing Lion Heart, and with a single swift of his wrist he'd crush Seifer to pieces, biased, maybe but true. So I'd go with Squall on this on.

[Hexarar]

What I'm meaning with 'fighting with all you have' is that if you have a chance to fight dirty, you fight. If you don't, you make a chance. Right what Seifer does. And hey, if Seifer had been a playable character through game, i s'pose they (Square) had given him weapon upgrades and a limit break that would equal Lionheart. They were meant to be rivals, I don't think one would be able to beat another alone. They would end up killing each other. Except if Seifer fought dirty and hired a gunman to take Squall down...
Except I personally think he wouldn't go that low. Not with Squall. He admires him too much (my personal opinion, I don't think there is any evidence).