squall vs seifer

[In4ser]

One of the main reasons I liked FFVIII is the characters and the rivally. They imo better than FFVII's however the game system sux0rz.

I believe if Seifer was a playable character in your party and could junction and upgrade he would be > Squall. However that is not the case, and he's stuck as a brainwashed bodyguard (how much stronger can u get sitting around waiting 4 Edea to be attacked? Instead of questing around attacking monsters and soldiers) Besides when you do fight him, he's an AI not a human. If I were controlling Seifer fighting Squall I would have done much better, like healing more etc, junctioning.

Anyways, I loved how Seifer and Squall were designed to be the opposites. Squall is an realist while Seifer is a idealist, while Squall fights for nothing, (Stereotypical rebel without a cause) Seifer fights for his dreams, a romantic.

Squall is indifferent to others, and wants to distance himself from others (at least in the beginning.) While Seifer actually insecure and soft and tries to hide it by being arrogant and venting his pain by bullying on others. He wants to be reassured and be close to others, he is afraid of failing.

I really don't think Seifer is being cheap using magic in the opening scene was that big of a deal, it's like using his limit break. I mean Allies in WWII bombed the crap out of civilian towns, killing hundreds of innocent ppl, did that make them evil? Anyways, I've noticed whenever he does his limit he casts fire then follows it up with a physical attack. The movie Squall uses to counter him looks similar to his limit break (if not actually being rough divide, being a movie it will not look like it does in the game. I mean u can get shot at in battle mode but in a movie u get shot it actually hurts) I could call Squall cheap for attack Seifer unprepared, surprise attack. I mean after Seifer connected he wasn't ready to fight squall. He thought it was over, so you didn't see Seifer even try to block Squalls blow, but it really doesn't matter who was cheap and what not. IT's all fair in love in WAR.

[Skyblade]

One of the main reasons I liked FFVIII is the characters and the rivally. They imo better than FFVII's however the game system sux0rz.

I believe if Seifer was a playable character in your party and could junction and upgrade he would be > Squall. However that is not the case, and he's stuck as a brainwashed bodyguard (how much stronger can u get sitting around waiting 4 Edea to be attacked? Instead of questing around attacking monsters and soldiers) Besides when you do fight him, he's an AI not a human. If I were controlling Seifer fighting Squall I would have done much better, like healing more etc, junctioning.

Anyways, I loved how Seifer and Squall were designed to be the opposites. Squall is an realist while Seifer is a idealist, while Squall fights for nothing, (Stereotypical rebel without a cause) Seifer fights for his dreams, a romantic.

Squall is indifferent to others, and wants to distance himself from others (at least in the beginning.) While Seifer actually insecure and soft and tries to hide it by being arrogant and venting his pain by bullying on others. He wants to be reassured and be close to others, he is afraid of failing.

I really don't think Seifer is being cheap using magic in the opening scene was that big of a deal, it's like using his limit break. I mean Allies in WWII bombed the crap out of civilian towns, killing hundreds of innocent ppl, did that make them evil? Anyways, I've noticed whenever he does his limit he casts fire then follows it up with a physical attack. The movie Squall uses to counter him looks similar to his limit break (if not actually being rough divide, being a movie it will not look like it does in the game. I mean u can get shot at in battle mode but in a movie u get shot it actually hurts) I could call Squall cheap for attack Seifer unprepared, surprise attack. I mean after Seifer connected he wasn't ready to fight squall. He thought it was over, so you didn't see Seifer even try to block Squalls blow, but it really doesn't matter who was cheap and what not. IT's all fair in love in WAR.

Seifer is a playable character during the SeeD field test. He's still nothing compared to Squall.

Squall is fighting for a reason: it's his duty. Originally, he was just following the orders of his superiors, and then he was put in charge of Garden and told to go hunt down the sorceress. He doesn't like it, but what's he supposed to do?

Yes, and if that was a war, you may have a point. It wasn't, it was a training excercise, dummy!

[In4ser]

Sry, I guess you have mistaken my words. I mean playable throughtout the game. However now that you do mention it, during the field test, Seifer has more HP and deals more damage.

Squall fights because it's his duty? Duty for what SeeD? What does he believe in that SeeD provides him? He's not the type to care for ideals of others, he doesn't care who he kills as long as he get's paid at least in the beginning. That's what SeeD is a Mecenary group that fights for money not ideals, not much duty. Duty for what? Money?

As Squall says, "There is no good, there is no bad. Just perspective and opinion." He's type to fight for the thrill of fighting, at least in the beginning. A badass, until he meet Rinoa.

Yes it was a training exercise, but when two ppl hate each other things tend to go a bit far. Even in horseplay with friends, you hit him a little too hard, he hits back even harder, before you know a full blown fight breaks out. And in a fight you want to hurt someone, especially with rivals and with a sword it's likely you cut someone, if it was really WAR, they would have fought to the end, killing one or the other, not give each other only scars.

P.S. how squall holds his sword looks like he's jacking off...with the swords as his phallic, at least imo =D

[G SpOtZ]

they both had a piece of rinoa. squalls more whipped than siefer ever was by rinoa, so squalls pretty much a wuss. and it was always 3v1 when they fought siefer (even tho my only good fighter is squall, he could probably beat siefer on his own and my other characters barely did anything)

siefer wears a nice cloak thing with a sweet red symbol, while squall wears leather stuff, overloaded belts, and a big fluffy feather collar. wutta shame.

as much as i hate siefer, he wins this one.

[Skyblade]

they both had a piece of rinoa. squalls more whipped than siefer ever was by rinoa, so squalls pretty much a wuss. and it was always 3v1 when they fought siefer (even tho my only good fighter is squall, he could probably beat siefer on his own and my other characters barely did anything)

siefer wears a nice cloak thing with a sweet red symbol, while squall wears leather stuff, overloaded belts, and a big fluffy feather collar. wutta shame.

as much as i hate siefer, he wins this one.

Actually, it's one on one the first time you fight him (before the Edea battle).

[Megalixir]

man ff7 sucks

[Christmas]

they both had a piece of rinoa. squalls more whipped than siefer ever was by rinoa, so squalls pretty much a wuss. and it was always 3v1 when they fought siefer (even tho my only good fighter is squall, he could probably beat siefer on his own and my other characters barely did anything)

Just murder your other two members and go on a one on one fight with Seifer if you want.

man ff7 sucks

What have this got to do with FF7?

[Mercen-X]

Seifer's the chickenwuss buckAHHHHHHH!

[G SpOtZ]

they both had a piece of rinoa. squalls more whipped than siefer ever was by rinoa, so squalls pretty much a wuss. and it was always 3v1 when they fought siefer (even tho my only good fighter is squall, he could probably beat siefer on his own and my other characters barely did anything)

siefer wears a nice cloak thing with a sweet red symbol, while squall wears leather stuff, overloaded belts, and a big fluffy feather collar. wutta shame.

as much as i hate siefer, he wins this one.

Actually, it's one on one the first time you fight him (before the Edea battle).

O__O why don't i remember the 1v1 part...

Just murder your other two members and go on a one on one fight with Seifer if you want.

good idea. i might do that. who needs em anyway. XD

[raskerino]

Yeah I've done that, junctioned at all he's ridiculously easy. 1st time it's 1v1 anyway, the last time you can draw aura making it a sinch. And the other two times he does about 300-1000 if you've junctioned to life you'll have about 5000 life and to a lot more damage than he does every hit.

Back on subject as someone said whoever you're playing as wins:
You're Squall to make the storyline continue you have to beat seifer.
You're Seifer I assume the same would be true for you.

But Squall with 2 companions beat 4 forms of Ultimecia/Griever and all 8 of her stronger guardians. The best seifer has done is defeat odin, but he is just another of guardians- and the weaker than the others. You beat his mistress and him, Squall wins

[MoonLight-Selphie]

im sorry i love squall
but omg i love seifer he's soo strong...and sexy

[MoonLight-Selphie]

seifer would kick squall's ass if squall did'nt have his friend's with him all the time SEIFER RULES :cool:

yeah what he said

[Aeris 1 Gainsborough]

I have beat Final Fantasy VIII many times. Squall and Seifer are best friends. DUring the first half of the game, Squall is concerned about Seifer and thinks about him a lot. He even says that he liked him and respected him. Squall and Rinoa are a great couple and I like Seifer, too. I beat the game many times and Squall and Seifer are ebst friends during the first two discs, but by the end of disc two, things change. Squall, Rinoa and Seifer are my three favorite FFVIII characters.

[Dark Messenger]

Seifer's got a good chance.

I like his quote.. "Let me give ya another scar, Squall!"

Also: If Demon Slice/Bloodfest are Limits, will Seifer use them more if you cast Aura on him? Just a thought... I have cast Aura on a monster before, but I don't think monsters have any clue what to do with Aura.

[muzzer]

im not really too fussed becasue you dont play the game as seifer,but squal would have a better chance in my mind