Now where does communism come in??

[mecharmor23]

I thought capitalism, democracy and facism has won already. Anyway, why are their still people afraid that the commies will are still the problem today??

In TODAY's world their are actually plenty online who believes that the current recession and the future shortage of a workforce is part of a communist scheme.

Err... I don't understand how and where does communism link to the problems of today's world. Communism is so weak that it is going to dissapear soon and people are still believing that communism is still a global threat.

so... does anyone here thinks that by saying the world commie or communist will wet your pants?? are you afraid?

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

Eh, people are stupid. Communism in and of itself isn't even a bad concept, and America itself has several programs that might be considered Communist, such as Education, Social Security, and (well, in theory) medicare. I know some rabid communists so I don't think it will die any time soon, though I doubt it will become viable for years to come, if ever. I prefer a blend of capitalism and socialism myself, and so long as I can live in a country like that, I have no objection.

[CloudSquallandZidane]

Communism is a great idea, on paper. Too bad it doesnt work in real life.

[mecharmor23]

my concern is that the taiwanese seems to be quite racist at times whenever communism is mentioned. one of my taiwanese classmates think that whenever I talk about communism it somehow refers to china and chinese. All he ended up doing was bashing the chinese as a race and somehow the concept of communism is never mentioned during this whole conversation. just mindless racist slurs.

does it happen often?? are taiwanese often racist? no offense meant by the way. you guys are free to correct my mistake.

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

Ironically, your statement right there might be considered racist.

Seriously though, some people have ingrained racial stereotypes. In this case, communism has nothing to do with it, it's all about hating the Chinese. Communism is just a way for them to try to make it appear more acceptable.

[Brian The Pink Shark]

I think communism is a great idea, unfortunatly it often becomes corrupt and tends to stop a country developing. Personnaly i think China had a lot more going for it before it turned communist

[gokufusionss1]

my concern is that the taiwanese seems to be quite racist at times whenever communism is mentioned. one of my taiwanese classmates think that whenever I talk about communism it somehow refers to china and chinese. All he ended up doing was bashing the chinese as a race and somehow the concept of communism is never mentioned during this whole conversation. just mindless racist slurs.

does it happen often?? are taiwanese often racist? no offense meant by the way. you guys are free to correct my mistake.

the taiwaness are chinese, how can he be racist against his own people. It's like me having a go at someone from the isle of white.

[Carnage]

I thought capitalism, democracy and facism has won already

Fascism...win? When? like in ww2 where we kicked mussolinis ass? or when the nazis were finished off in the soviet union? Wait............... is this one of those puzzles where one dosent belong? I got it, do i win?

P.S. Capitalism sucks. Karl Marx baby :rock:

[Auronhart]

Seriously though, some people have ingrained racial stereotypes. In this case, communism has nothing to do with it, it's all about hating the Chinese. Communism is just a way for them to try to make it appear more acceptable.

I don't think this is true for everyone. Personally I hate the Chinese government, but I have quite a few Chinese friends so I obviously don't have racial prejudices against the people.

[DeBlayde]

In highschool, I worked in a chinese restaraunt. Best chinese food on the face of the planet, by the way. too bad the place closed.
the owners were from Taiwan. But they considered themselves Chinese. Taiwanese are an ethnic group who want to maintain the independence of Taiwain. ok, more of a political group.

According to my former employers, however (nicest people in the whole world. became my second family) they thought the Taiwanese wanted a return of the days of WW2 during which Taiwan was controlled by the Japanese.

but the japanese were so ethnocentric that they were quite.... let's say they weren't too nice to Not-Japanese people. But, I've yet to hear of a single culture or ethnicity that has never in its history commited some attrocity or other. human nature I suppose.

besides. The communist ideal may yet rise since nearly 1/3 of the world's population lives in a communist system. or socialist. one or the other. Russia was one, and China was the other, but i can't remember which. Probably Mongolia.

[The Captain]

Communism's biggest problem is that it relies on human ambition being turned aside and forgotten. Marx wanted to start a revolution, but revolutions ALWAYS, ALWAYS need leaders, and in order for Communism to work, those who have just led the revolution must then immeditately step down and no longer dominate, which to the best of my knowledge has never happened.

I think some ideas of socialism are wonderful and make life better, but I severely doubt we'll ever see the day where Communism or socialism works to any large extent.

Take care all.

[Auronhart]

I think some ideas of socialism are wonderful and make life better, but I severely doubt we'll ever see the day where Communism or socialism works to any large extent.

Yeah, that is why I am a conservative.

[Axamenta]

I don't think the communists are the problem. They are a marginal minority today, especially in the 'free' West.

The fascists on the other hand are a big problem, globally and locally. In my own country, the fascist party is the biggest one and the most powerful nation of the world has just re-elected a fascist president. Then again, it's mostly the supporters of these fascists who still consider communism to be a problem. It never even was a problem, anti-communists created the problem in the first place.

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

McCarthyism had much to do with the stigma attached to communism.

[Martyr]

Well...

Communism sounds so cool that there are probably always going to be people who think they can, maybe, pull it off.

Because, although capitalism is the secret to my success, a lot of people are afraid of work. A lot of people pray to win the lottery every night.

The big challenge for capitalists is to help out the less successful. One side of me screams, "They're the lowest end of the food chain! Cut them off before they reproduce and spoil civilization."
But there is another part of me that suggests, "It is possible, Martyr, maybe, for people to be taught to be successful..."

From what I've seen in America, we should cut them off. An all capitalist government would master export and trade, allowing for more and more money and mopre and more power and more and more freedom. All people have to do is work. Just like Communism, but the system is focused more on an individual so losers don't screw things up!

But nobody will do that. Nobody wants to kill a damn seal. There certainly isn't anybody who can ignore the pleas of stupid, violent, uneducated morons of the lower class. Our societal morals tell us that "they" should be treated equally even though they don't want to play by the rules.

America is a giant freaking nursery!

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Anyway, that was probably a way far off topic rant.
But I hope it helps to explain why communism still lingers.

It's because of all the great governments we have developed, we still have an imperfect government. So modifications to the concept of communism still look like an option to people. That's all.

I just wish that Mr. Marx wasn't such a violent bastard.