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    Let's call X the angle between c and h (look at Del's picture).

    c = 8*cos(X) [cos(X) = c/8]
    b/2 = c*sin(X) [sin(X) = (b/2)/c]
    b/2 = 8*cos(X)*sin(X)
    h = 8*cos(X)*sqrt(1-sin(X)^2)
    h = 8*cos(X)^2

    So, A = h*b/2 = 64*cos(X)^3*sin(X)
    Transformate that horror:
    A = 64*cos(X)^2*(0.5*sin(2*X))
    A = 64*(1/2)*(1+cos(2*X))*(1/2)*sin(2*X)
    A = 16*sin(2*X)+8*sin(4*X)
    (find your trig book, there are a lot of ways to manipulate cos and sin, and you do end up with this)

    Derivate that (fun xD)
    A' = 32*(cos(2*X)+cos(4*X)) = 0
    cos(2*X)+cos(4*X) = 0
    Another transformation
    cos(pi-2*X) = cos(4*X)
    pi-2*X = 4*X
    X = pi/6

    From this you find:
    c=4*sqrt(3)
    b=4*sqrt(3)
    h=6
    A=12*sqrt(3)

    We now have the mathematical justification of the obvious (to me) result to your question: the biggest isoceles triangle that fits in a circle is an equilateral triangle.

    Edit: just reread Del's posts. I think you get:
    h = (32-(b/2)^2-(b/2)^4)^(1/4)
    A = hb/2
    A = (1/2)*b*(32-(b/2)^2-(b/2)^4)^(1/4)
    And have fun with solving that derivate = 0.

    Edit^2:
    Reread the orginal post, whose method is right.
    A=x*(4+sqrt(16-x^2))

    Derivate that, you get:
    4+sqrt(16-x^2)-x*(x/(sqrt(16-x^2))) = 0
    4+sqrt(16-x^2) = (x^2)/(sqrt(16-x^2))
    x != 0, x != -4, x != 4
    4*sqrt(16-x^2) + 16 - x^2 = x^2
    sqrt(16-x^2) = 1/2 * x^2 - 4
    16-x^2 = (1/2 * x^2 - 4)^2
    16 = 1/4 * x^4 - 3* x^2 +16
    (1/4) x^4 = 3 * x^2
    So... 1/4 x^2 = 3
    x^2=12
    x=2*sqrt(3)
    Last edited by Endless; 12-08-2004 at 05:57 PM.

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