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    I am going to read "a Brief History of Time" by Stephen Hawking, which apparently ends up giving almost irrefutable evidence for Intelligent design (a mathematical proof, with the only assumption being the laws of general relativity (which have a lot of evidence)) and shows that time had a beginning which would discredit the "with enough time and enough matter" argument. I will have to read it before I can seriously comment, though.
    The main problem with intelligent design is that this universe is NOT perfect.
    Many Christians argue that this is only the case because of the fall of mankind. (sin)
    If this universe follows mathematical law, then all laws of probability apply. When the laws of probability are applied, everything becomes uncertain. The fact that uncertainties exist disprove an orderly universe. Of course, when probability is applied all laws become false, as there exists a possibility of something different happening. All things are uncertain.
    I don't think rigorous mathematical proofs have any uncertainties except in those assumptions placed on them. If what I've heard is correct about the book, then all you can argue is that general relativity is not true, which is a very weak argument.
    NO. LIES. HERESY! You do NOT have that number! The odds of you having that number are astronomical! There's a one in a QUADRILLION* chance of you getting the number in front of you. Clearly GOD created that number.
    The probability of the evolution occuring so far has been narrowed to less than 1/10^2XX. (not a large number and this was even using favorable (to evolution happening) constraints and it is getting smaller and smaller as we learn more) The "we are here aren't we" argument is a very weak argument for evolution happening.
    Since you typed the above statement, you obviously don't understand the concepts of intelligent design. If God (or Gods) exist and decided to make a world like the one we live in, there is no probability whatsoever involved. Furthermore, each time the probabilty of evolution or equivalent is shown to be less then previously thought, the probability of intelligent design goes up. Even if evolution had 1% chance of happening, it still would be easily outweighed by the other 99%. Believe in the <.000000001% if you wish, but I personally do not like that probability.
    Last edited by Auronhart; 12-12-2004 at 10:52 PM.
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