I hated FFX for the resons stated above, but you wanna know the worst thing about it? The whistling scene.
(No offense to people who liked FFX.)
The only thing worse than FFX was FFX-2, and that was really crappy IMO. FFXI gave me little hope for Square, but I dont want XII to be another X or X-2. (Especially X-2)
Last edited by UltimateSpamGrover; 12-22-2004 at 04:31 AM. Reason: I edited it becuase I misspelled "wanna" as "waana", so as Auron would say when he provokes , "CALM DOWN!"
My opinion is that everybody has there own tastes. I have been playing FF games since 7 came out (Born 1991) so I was 6-7 when I started to play? And yes I have played 1 through 10-2 (Including CC) the only ones I haven't played are Mystic Quest, Legends II, Legends III.
Some people hate atleast one FF game because there tiny mind cannot comprehand the complexty of some things and even some simple things or they just hate it because there to lazy to go do the harder sub-quests for Example. 7 Materia System or you it was to easy (It really was) I had no problem with 1-6 Haven't beaten them yet but still.
8 come on the Junction system? That was badass how could you not get that or even hate it? Once again tiny connot understand the complexity. 9 You had Hade to beat plus the Ability system rocked! FFT that was plainly one of the best FF games ever! FF10 had the nice little Aeon System almost simuler (Mispelled) to the FF GF system, And also the Sphere Grid was cool! And CC was ok. 10-2 wasen't that all bad, The job system and reply was cool! It was a very replay-able game. The only problem I have with it was "Sphere Break" and the Blitzball mini-game kinda sucked on there and also that there wasen't that much gamplay to it not unless you completed 100% of it.
Anyways my point? It you hate it probably cause you suck at somthing on there! And if you cannot understand somthing as Basic such as the Juction System or Sphere Grid do you think you should really even play and Final Fantasy games?
And if your offended to bad! I'm not going to say sorry!
Last edited by ArkBennett; 12-22-2004 at 05:13 AM.
I hated FFX/FFx-2 because it was... crap. (I beat X by the way so I understood how the game worked.) I like FF's that are actually difficult. That's one of the many, many, many, many reasons I quit on Chapter 3 of X-2.FFX (and X-2) was all graphics and no gameplay, FFXI was all game play and no graphics. Hopefully FFXII will balance it all out. We shall see come Fall 2005.
If I insulted any of you, I didn't mean to. :laugh:
EDIT: Oh, don't even get me started with VIII...
Last edited by UltimateSpamGrover; 12-22-2004 at 05:14 AM. Reason: Had to flame X and X-2 even more, If you dont like it, too freakin' bad!
either:1)replay it so u can understand the plot better
2)go do the nemesis side quest
3)stop whining about things and go play ffvii.
I did understand the plot of FFX
(SPOILER)
Big Baddie destroys world
Summoner destroys baddie by taking his/her own life
Baddie returns
Some whiny brat is thrown into story
Brat falls in love with Girl
Girl becomes Summoner
Girl tells Brat that she will die
Brat finds out Baddie is his father
Fights Father
Brat dies
sounds like Star Wars to me... but whatever
well u can make NETHING sound horrible when u say it like that :rolleyes2 . by ur standards i could go do the same with shakespeare...i think you understand it on a superficial level, which is good. but there are times in a ff, and with ffx the ENTIRE game, where u have to draw ur own conclusions and pick up on the subtleties(?)Originally Posted by UltimaKnightGrover
Everyone keeps on going on about graphics and FF7 but has anyone realised that at the time the graphics for FF6 were amazing? FF6 is where they started putting more of an effort into graphics. BTW I like all FF's for different reasons except for IIIj, Mystic Quest, Legends and XI which I haven't played.
ok i can see wot ure sayin (im new by the way hellooo!!!!! o and hey borisnono!pooooooooo) but wot about the buit in X-2 wen u can whistkle 4 a happy endin!! (sob sob!) i dont think its the best FF and its a bit 2 much like VIII but its still a fantabulas game!!!!! It is a bit lovey dovey tho....sigh...
K@!
Hmmm
I've only been playing FF games since part 7, so I cannot comment on any of the games before that one. I believe X (and X-2 for that matter), in terms of graphics, were the best... my fave for storyline however (and this is gonna get me lynched, I'm sure) was part 8. I could easily say without regret that part 8 has the best storyline, IMHO. It was rich and full of twist and turns, and, being a girlie girl, of course I bawled at the end (but I've bawled at the end of all of them, so that doesn't say much!) But X's story, although it was kinda meaty, was still flimsy. Heartwarming, yes, but flimsy nonetheless... Part 9's story was laughable, at best, and part 7 was also great. But what X lacked in story, it made up for in graphics and gameplay. Loved the cloisters, loved the monster arena, LOVED LOVED LOVED the no world map thing, and the music was killer. X-2 tho really got lots better than X in terms of gameplay and the different things you could do. Anywho, there are my two cents.
DUN
All what said UltimaKnightGrover :
lol, at last somone think like me....I am not alone....
X-2 is crap, yeah
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I hated the graphics in X I much prefer VI and VII graphics
but I think that the worst to happen to the FF series
(other than the death of the world map and therefore
flying around mindlesly in an airdhip)
was the introduction of the voice actor
I took out all the imagination and personality
out of the characters. plus the characters are
getting stupider looker eg. Tidus, Wakka, Eiko, etc.
IMO FFX was a great game... cept they forced too much into the mini-games, too many FMVs/cutscenes and it was just simply too linear. FFVII you walk out onto the world map.. do what you want for a while... if you get a new vehicle, you can explore new places. FFX you just walk on down that story line or walk backwards and only fight. Only things you would go back for in FFX are simply.. items.. and minigames which is another of the big problems with FFX.
Who enjoyed wandering around for tonberries? or playing dodge the lighting bolts? Or trying to get below 0 seconds on the chocobo catcher? playing catch the butterflies? eww eww eww and more eww. the battle arena was fun because you could take your time with it but the others require you to do things repeatedly, with little rewards...
i doubt anyone can say they enjoyed themselves dodging lighting bolts or trying to get below 0 seconds.
whereas I did have fun playing catch the butterfly. . .
for a while.
but it's way easier than chocobo racing and lightning dodging-_-
who enjoyed levelling up all the materia of a kind just to get a master one? I'm not too much right now, for sure. (although once I actually get one, I may be singing another tune, if I ever make it that far) Or what about a chocobo race where you get to the point where you just sit there and leave the room for the length of time until the others to get done?
However, in the ones that you can explore in, usually there's no benefit to doing so. In some cases you can't even go *inside* the places you find. That's a lot of wasted time and possibly items from going that far. of course if you have a vehicle it usually makes it a little bit easier (except that stupd dune buggy in ff7 and any of the cars in ff8. those things were crap@.@)
The linearity of ffx is probably mostly because it isn't your game-- it's yuna's. and since you aren't playing as her, you don't get to make the calls-- it's the way it would happen if it played out IRL. Later, when yuna becomes nearly useless, you get a chance to go explore. Just because the airship isn't nearly as fun as the ragnarok to fly in (oh man, as soon as I could control that sucker I was nearly in tears it was so awesome) doesn't mean there aren't places to explore. There aren't many (hmm, omega dungeon?) but they[it] are[is] there.
There isn't really a way to make it nonlinear, not without changing the plot. Yuna's goal is to defeat sin-- she wants to do it as quickly as possible, so to help the people she loves. it's based on her journey, even if it is told through tidus' pov. If she gets sidetracked (like in Luca and then somewhat in guadosalam then bevelle) the whole party is dragged along, because it's her that you agreed to *guard* if being dragged along after her isn't to your taste, when she asks you to become a guardian, turn the game off
there's nothing wrong with FFX to me, all FF has it's pros and cons. For example, FF8 was great to me, but it's weak on it's storyline, FF9 was also great, but to me it's too childish, so what do you expect? We're all humans after all...
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if they had dared to not improve the graphics, half of the ppl that play th ff series today, would never hav bought any of th sequels. it would've been insane not to use th graphic potential of th ps1... if they had stuck with 2d, they would be dead by now.
plus, when square makes a new game, especially when it's for a new console, they take in consideration th old generation of gamers (their fans), as well as a NEW generation of gamers (little 12yr olds who never played ff b4). for th old generation, u get a great plot, and deep characters, and a challenging battle system, and such. that's what impresses us... for new players, u get amazing graphics and dazzling fmvs, and voice-over acting, and stuff like that. it might seem trivial to u, but it impresses them. and that's what perpetuates th ff cycle. coz even if u still buy ff games when u're 90, u eventually die, along with all ur generation of players, and if there's no new gen of players to take ur place, th company's bankrupt.
I've seen a lot of posts from ppl sayin "oh, they broke th tradition" and other crap like that, and I tell u: if they didn't there wouldn't be no square anymore...(there would be enix, but I think u'll agree th square part is much much better)
and also, even U would eventually get bored of th ff series if they didn't innovate. they hav to explore every new possibility in order to, one day, give us th perfect game, based on all th studies on th flaws, mistakes, and th good stuff of their previous games... (although this last paragraph is more of a utopic thing...)
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