Mmm now that i can really agree with But they are still missing the element of Refresh. Alot of the times no RDM or BRD = no PT, if SMN can refresh on a different scale than those two, then i would say, they can do it all and are desirable. I agree that they can nuke decently(less than RDM i think..not exactly sure since some SMNs dont MB), buff decently, and can control hate ok too. With a WHM sub they can even heal decently. So yea i agree with that, a RDM in a way, but yet also more specialized even more in spells and magic instead of getting an ok atk.