ULTIMA WEAPON

[Shoden]

that would be great but i would want to invovle Ruby emerald Diamond and sapphire from ff7.

[Ultima Shadow]

Hmmm... maybe in the end of DSRF there should be a "Weapon Palace" where all the Weapons dwells...

[FFVIII Fan]

sorry there, but back on a differant note, Omega Weapon, lets face it IS harder. Ye may like Ultima weapon better but he just isnt as powerful. The creators of ff named Omega as the strongest boss and he is...enough said.

[Laugh at face of Danger]

I found Ultima pushover too, i gave him one Lion Heart with 255 str stats and i didn't even get a chnace to get Eden! Had to wait another disk. Omega was harder than Ultima, but Ultimecia (i found) was harder than Omega because of random character selection

and I'm liking the idea of Weapons Palace...should be added to disk 4, it was a bit empty aside from beating the BOSSES at Ultimecia's castle

EDIT: Don't double post. -M-buster

[Skyblade]

sorry there, but back on a differant note, Omega Weapon, lets face it IS harder. Ye may like Ultima weapon better but he just isnt as powerful. The creators of ff named Omega as the strongest boss and he is...enough said.

Omega is stronger, but Ultima is a far harder boss. Once you know Omega's pattern, beating him is child's play. Ultima tosses in random Light Pillars that instantly kill a character, and he is faster. Ultima is not hard (if you have good characters, he's simple), but he is more of a danger than Omega.

And Laugh? Don't double post...

[Laugh at face of Danger]

Hey, i finished off Ultima too quickly to experience any light pillars or any devastating attacks, and did anyone else notice that Squall takes ages between each hits in Renzokuken?

[Ultima Shadow]

sorry there, but back on a differant note, Omega Weapon, lets face it IS harder. Ye may like Ultima weapon better but he just isnt as powerful. The creators of ff named Omega as the strongest boss and he is...enough said.

Did you actually read my long post about how Ultima Weapon actually is harder? I don't think you did... so please, read it before you say something like this. If you just don't have what it takes to read trough the long post, then just listen to the words of this wise man:

Omega is stronger, but Ultima is a far harder boss. Once you know Omega's pattern, beating him is child's play. Ultima tosses in random Light Pillars that instantly kill a character, and he is faster. Ultima is not hard (if you have good characters, he's simple), but he is more of a danger than Omega.

Skyblade is correct. And while Omega is an overall "stronger" boss... Ultima still have higher stats... except HP. Higher attack power, higher magdef, mag power and MUCH faster.

I found Ultima pushover too, i gave him one Lion Heart with 255 str stats and i didn't even get a chnace to get Eden! Had to wait another disk. Omega was harder than Ultima, but Ultimecia (i found) was harder than Omega because of random character selection

Yea, and guess what? I killed Omega Weapon in 1 turn with The End! And THAT makes him a pushover, right?

You defeated Ultima Weapon with Lion Heart + 255str? If you expect ANYTHING to be even close to hard at all when you use Lionheart and have 255 str, then you're WAY WRONG. Lionheart is a cheap and overpowered weapon that never should have been added to the game... just like The End is a cheap attack that never should have been added to the game... and heros and holy wars are cheap items that never should have been added to the game... but whatever.

Look... if you fight Ultima Weapon like that... then he's very easy... but if you fight Omega like that... then he's so easy that if you call him "pice of cake", you're still overrating him alot. If you're unlucky, Ultima Weapon may atleast kill 1 character before you beat him. Omega on the other hand... ANYONE should be able to beat him blindfolded without having a singel character KOed even once if you're using that kind of stuff.

Now... let's pretend that we're NOT using Lionheart, Armagedon fist, The End or any of the other overpowered and cheap moves and having all stats maxed. Whoolaa... all of a sudden Ultima Weapon becomes pretty tough... while Omega still is just as easy. The only difference with Omega is that the battle will take a bit longer but that's all. Oh, and may I ask... did you fight Ultima at level 100? If not, then you really should. Ultima Weapon is the fastest enemy in the game at level 100 and use Lightpillars every now and then. Omega is easy as pie as long as your characters have the Defend command and 9999 as max HP. Really... ANY party with 9999 as max HP and the Defend command can EASILY beat Omega... but neither Defend or 9999HP will help you against quickly used and unpredictable Light Pillars.

ps: I like discussing this... so if you still don't agree... then tell me. I won't give up until you all relise the truth.

[ezzarian]

Is Tiamat harder? Or Ultima Weapon? I'm on level 100 and some people say that he's @#%$# strong by then!

[Christmas]

Is Tiamat harder? Or Ultima Weapon? I'm on level 100 and some people say that he's @#%$# strong by then!

You actually revive a thread that had been long forgotten....

Well, in my opinion Ultima Weapon is harder cause all Tiamat do is sit there and take centuries to use his Dark Flare or whatever you call it.

[Shoden]

keep it quiet and it might last lol

i remember argueing with Ultima shadow about ruby weapon's gender btw it's a he who had a few sex changes and w/e and now is a he again or stuff

[Skyblade]

Is Tiamat harder? Or Ultima Weapon? I'm on level 100 and some people say that he's @#%$# strong by then!

Equip to absorb Ice, Thunder, and Fire and sit there all day. Tiamat won't be able to do a thing except heal you. Take all the time you want to complete that battle. Piece o' cake.

[Ultima Shadow]

You actually revive a thread that had been long forgotten....

It was lost, but not forgotten. This thread will always have a special place in my heart (or something like that).

i remember argueing with Ultima shadow about ruby weapon's gender btw it's a he who had a few sex changes and w/e and now is a he again or stuff

NO, NO AND NO!!! That's not true at all! Ruby Weapon is a "she" a FEMALE!

[ezzarian]

So basically I can beat Tiamat... *snaps fingers* just like that?

[Skyblade]

Yes. Tiamat's only attack is Dark Flare. Not only does it take a long time to use, but if you equip to negate/absorb Fire, Ice, and Thunder, it can't hurt you.

[G SpOtZ]

funny how final fantasy vii actually had a story going with the WEAPONS, but in the other ffs they're just there as random monster/bosses. no story to em, they're just there to fight and win stuff from.