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    Omeggas attack apptern changes all the time in each battle omega has higher vitality health and attack than ultima ultima is just annoying its weak silence it and keep a few phoenix pinions in stock and in 3 turns ultima is dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoden
    Omeggas attack apptern changes all the time in each battle omega has higher vitality health and attack than ultima ultima is just annoying its weak silence it and keep a few phoenix pinions in stock and in 3 turns ultima is dead
    Not much of what you're saying makes sense...
    Omegas attack pattern NEVER changes. Omegas str is LOWER than Ultima Weapon... since Ultima Weapon have 254str at level 100!!! Vit is usless because of meltdown and Omegas vit is only slightly higher than Ultimas. Ultima Weapon can't be silenced. Ultima Weapon can finish off 1 or 2 of your characters in those 3 rounds... Omega cannot (if your way of fighting him makes sense).

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    turn can beat Omega without having even 1 character KOed even once. Om,ega Weapon is slow... therefore you should be able to heal after Megido Flame long before Omega can attack you again. If your characters are too slow... then just have 1 character on standby until Omega use Megido Flame and then heal. People think Omega Weapon is hard only because they ignore his obivious attack pattern.
    Yeah, plus even if you don't know his pattern, abusing certain people's limit breaks (Rinoa and Zell especially) can easily finish him off before he does medigo flame.
    Silence does not work in the PC version either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultima Shadow
    AAARGH!!! I can't stand this! Omega Weapon is an EXTREMELY overrated wimp!!!
    How's that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel Rinoa
    How's that?
    Everyone seem to think that he's the hardest boss in FF history or something equal to that... but any average party with atleast 1 character with 9999 hp should be able to beat the crap out of Omega with ease. Omega Weapon is the most overrated boss in FF history... NOT the hardest.

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    No way, Penence is the most overrated :\

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaosCalibur
    No way, Penence is the most overrated :\
    Not really. :rolleyes2
    Penance is actually a hard and powerfull foe. Omega's not. And still it seems like people think Omega is harder.
    There's nothing more overrated than Omega Weapon. I've only fought 1 RPG boss that's actually pretty equall to Penance... and that's Dullahan from GS2. Penance is unpredictable, have high stats, extremely high HP and have some very powerfull attacks... Omega is predictable and a overrated wimp.
    Penance is not the hardest boss in RPG history. But he's absolutely the hardest FF boss so far.
    You need to prepare alot before batteling Penance. As for Omega... as long as some character have 9999HP, the defend ability and not effected by level5 death... you can pretty much just jump into the battle and take him down with ease.

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    I wish Omega was unpredictable + the end wouldn't work on him + there were no invincibility (cheat) items. That would make him more of a challenge, but still easy. (he could do terra break as his first move!) Even a human controlled Omega Weapon could be beaten.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Auronhart
    I wish Omega was unpredictable + the end wouldn't work on him + there were no invincibility (cheat) items. That would make him more of a challenge, but still easy. (he could do terra break as his first move!) Even a human controlled Omega Weapon could be beaten.
    All true. But I wish it was Ultima Weapon instead... with 15,000,000HP and moves like Terra Break and Megido Flame instead of Quake and Meteor... + permanent Triple and being able to cast Ultima and dispell... and Apocalypse!!! And ofcourse... Bad Breath! Imagine what a great battle!!! I mean... Ultima Weapon is so much cooler than Omega... he would deserve this more. I really, really wish I could do a FFVIII remake...

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    All true. But I wish it was Ultima Weapon instead... with 15,000,000HP and moves like Terra Break and Megido Flame instead of Quake and Meteor... + permanent Triple and being able to cast Ultima and dispell... and Apocalypse!!! And ofcourse... Bad Breath! Imagine what a great battle!!! I mean... Ultima Weapon is so much cooler than Omega... he would deserve this more.
    Actually, I have to agree with you, Ultima Weapon is much cooler looking then Omega. Yes, those stats would make it quite fun (challenging=fun), but of course you have to boost his speed a little, (from 145 to 200) max his magic (because otherwise ultima/apocalypse is basically useless) and set his level to 100 like Omega's is currently. Yes, that would be really fun and the idea I like the most is that you would have to use everything at your disposal to beat him.
    Imagine what a great battle!!!
    That is so true!
    I really, really wish I could do a FFVIII remake...
    Yeah, that would be so cool. Time for me to start programming it ...it's too bad it would take such a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Auronhart
    Actually, I have to agree with you, Ultima Weapon is much cooler looking then Omega. Yes, those stats would make it quite fun (challenging=fun), but of course you have to boost his speed a little, (from 145 to 200) max his magic (because otherwise ultima/apocalypse is basically useless) and set his level to 100 like Omega's is currently. Yes, that would be really fun and the idea I like the most is that you would have to use everything at your disposal to beat him.
    Yea, and his "hit" and "luck" should be very high as well... (hit=255 Luck=150 etc.) since that would mean that he won't miss with his standard attacks + high chanse of getting crictical hit. And also 255spr... and auto protect!!! Hmmm... maybe he should have some kind of "Ultima Spheres" that help him as well. 2 purple things that's glowing and floating in the air and that can cast Curaga, Shell, Esuna (to recover from meltdown!!!) and a few attacks like Ultima, Meteor and Meltdown (Imagine Ultima Weapon attacking YOUR characters when THEY are meltdown ) etc.
    That is so true!
    Yes, indeed...
    Yeah, that would be so cool. Time for me to start programming it ...it's too bad it would take such a long time.
    I would do it if I knew how to do. But I know nothing about programing... :rolleyes2

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    Well, all of that is possible, all you have to do is mess around with the PC version of the game...

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    Omega still harder than Ultima....

    Omega only needs to randomize its skills and the battle will be even more "near impossible".
    While Ultima has to improve his HP to millions and his skill which is depend only from Light Pillar. His speed won't help it all though.


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    I would do it if I knew how to do. But I know nothing about programing...
    It is very easy, just pick up a C++ book and compiler and start programming! The graphics are the part I find much harder.
    Well, all of that is possible, all you have to do is mess around with the PC version of the game...
    If you know how to seriously hack the game, yes it is possible.

    Yea, and his "hit" and "luck" should be very high as well... (hit=255 Luck=150 etc.) since that would mean that he won't miss with his standard attacks + high chanse of getting crictical hit. And also 255spr... and auto protect!!! Hmmm... maybe he should have some kind of "Ultima Spheres" that help him as well. 2 purple things that's glowing and floating in the air and that can cast Curaga, Shell, Esuna (to recover from meltdown!!!) and a few attacks like Ultima, Meteor and Meltdown (Imagine Ultima Weapon attacking YOUR characters when THEY are meltdown ) etc.
    And they also could test your characters for any statuses they are vulnerable to and then exploit those statuses. (i.e. they cast sleep on each person and if anyone falls asleep they will add it to their "permanent cast" list so it gets cycled through every once in a while. Plus they could cast annoying statuses like doom/slow petrify.)
    Hmm, maybe that would be too hard to add, though, but it would be cool.

    Omega only needs to randomize its skills and the battle will be even more "near impossible".
    Whatever, unless he does Terra Break as his first move, I would still crush him like an ant. (and probably would still beat him even then)
    As I said, he would be still beatable even if he was human controlled.
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    thats strange as when i fought ultima i got 5 moves before ultima got 1 but 1 move to him was 3 to me. Omega weapon had higher attack power i was at lv 71 when i fought ultima weapon and 82 with Omega. when o,mega atatcked with a basic attack it did 4200 while ultima only did a crappy 2800 proving that Omega has more strength alot more vitality and somehow evasion. Ultima was the most fun to fight though it didnt pee me off so bad he only killed one party memeber in that battle coz he drew eden from him then squall used Renzokuken perfect a couple of times i never managed to get past 2 lionhearts on ultima so when i battled him again for the fun of it i was equipped wit the punishment and still beat him easilly. it took me 3 hours to figure out Omegas attack patterns as it changes every battle. Omega wasnt really that all Omega hte health was but he needed higher stats they were higher than ultimas but not that much though.


    im trying to figure out the stories of Ultima and Omega

    imagine having to fight Ultima and Omega in the same battle then that would be hard and challenging

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