When i played WoW it was only a couple weeks old and people were still figuring things out. There wasnt much player communication and u could do just about everthing by your self. Citizen is right that there isnt as much a sense of accomplishment. I felt less involved in the world, but i sold it to my friend and he's been playin a lot. From what he says its getting better. People ban together more and there are weekly Forge raids where huge parties of 50 invade towns and such. Sounds fun for a pvp game.