Both WoW and FFXI is good i never said its better than another, i am just comparing what you said to what i heard from my friends who do play the game and comparing it to what i play. Because while some of the things you say WoW is better for you personally just didnt apply to me and you made it seem like it was a flaw/detrement to the game...which i found wasnt quite right @_@ At least thats what i felt.

I think the spell vs abilties thing is more that theres a PvP option there and that both sides have different things as well as the option to solo means they can go more free on abilties. I dont see how you can do that in a co-op game such as FFXI without both DRG and DRK dishing out over 4000 dmg.

Crafting can be increased somehow i forget how i think its something to do with GP...

The point I'm trying to make is that you get the freedom of deciding to party or to solo more in WoW. A Priests job is to heal when in a group but they have a set of spells that makes them able to solo very good as well. Where as a whm cannot solo well.
But thats the entire point. I feel an MMO should be all about interacting with others partying. I know a few friends say they dont actively seek a group anywhere unless they are doing the same thing as you which is really rare. Whereas in FFXI PT Seeking is pretty normal and i feel should be party oriented else its kinda meh. I mean you can invite a few Paladins to heal in WoW...Priests arent as much of a need compared to the usefulness you feel for a class in FFXI thats what i am getting at.

heh I wrote that wrong....what I ment was that at a higher lvl getting to the next lvl takes forever. In WoW there are more ways around from sitting there and lvling. (i.e includes, resting in an Inn while you are logged out giving you a boost to exp, quests give a lot of exp if you complete them.)
I agree with the Quest for moderate ammounts of exp thing, i love the idea of the system. But the Inn thing makes me wonder how easy it really is..cant you just go in and log off and on over and over? @_@

What does the PS2 have to do with it...?
The entire point is most of the limitations on FFXI is based off the PS2 as it was a PS2 game ported off into the PC for more marketing. Everything from the pop up images to the armorsets are limited by that weak machine. But comparing to what other PS2 games out there and what it can support its not bad at all, in fact its beautiful.

i.e if they find out you are buying gil they will delete your account. If you call a GM on FFXI about spam they will usually tell you to put them on your black list, in WoW they will either say somthing to the spamer or look and see if it's a big deal then kick them off their account for a while.
An announcement that 800 farmers that abuse the system is banned from all accross servers in FFXI. The point of problem here is i can just call you a gil buyer and would they bother you? Square has much more legal approach to the thing and they cant just ban anyone =/ Gil sellers give the gil to IGE lvl 1 chars in which IGE only delivers it to you, so you pay for the transfer. You really cant ban some people for transferring gil...what if that was a mule?

I will agree that you should use the blacklist, its what its there for. Unless theres a whole ton of people that are annoyed with the shout why should they be bothered with it when theres at least 86 other different calls for them and that some of them might be bs calls? I am sure if someone swore over shout or said things like that, they DO send them to GM jail, however if you dont like those people shouting for Tele-Mea...then use Blist =/

I just hope you see how complicated some of the things can be, i dont see how the GM support there is better besides sending more reports/announcements to appease people.

No, you don't have to sit at the pc for 5hours but if you do what you said the lvls go by slow in the real world i.e lvl 10-20 could take about a week or more (depending on the parties) if you only lvl for an hour a day it could take 2,3,4,5....or more weeks depending on the parties again.
Not everyone really cares that much, i know a few that plays 1.5 hours a day and they static. So its opinion i guess. I dont really care as long as a PT is fun and pulls in decent exp. To each their own i guess

Yes, if you do a quest that you must head into enemy teritory then you need a group to protect you. (a lot of quests are in enemy areas)
This sounds good ^^ Something i will give a thumbs up on for WoW. Beastmen need to be more organized and rwar on us every now and then so "Beastmen on the Rise" means something.

BTW, i heard that some people only signed upf or ff11 because it has great cybersex as the game attracts people with high imagination LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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and BTW i just feel more sense of community in FFXI than WoW thats all, i mean running by Jeuno either Port or Lower, you will at least run into ONE person you partied or met with before and we can chat which i often do. Its much more sense of community to me than JUST a guild or LS...maybe its just me but i heard that besides your guild its kinda lonely in WoW....of course it could be just my friend's playing experience..i dont know what you got @_@ Because i distinctly asked a friend who played FFXI who cant play anymore(net probs) who went to WoW and thats what he personally said. *shruggie* i hope its not as lonely though cuz i HATED that in RO.

O and omecle i didnt say FFXI is better...its prolly is on some parts but not others. I always do put off the wrong msg ; ;