Hentai question(

[aeris2001x2]

The Animation style.

Anime is Beautiful and detailed

Western Animation normally is not, relying on motion over detail.

[Dingo Jellybean]

The Animation style.

Anime is Beautiful.

Western Animation normally is not.

See, that's an opinion. Why does that distinguish "anime" from "cartoon?" I'm willing to accept that anime is a branch of cartoons, but not willing to accept it as a separate entity like history and science. Although yes, you can say they're apples and oranges, but apples and oranges are still fruits.

I've been in this debate before...and I've never been fully convinced, even though I try to be open minded about these things because anime fanboys can be a bit obsessed with these things. Other than by name, what exactly distinguises these two? I can make a violent cartoon and market it in Japan. What will they call it there? Cartimation?

If a European automaker brings a Lexus here, what makes the car a different entity than cars like Ford? They are both cars in the end.

[aeris2001x2]

Well firstly, please drop the bias/insult of *violent* cartoons tag.

Anime is a type of cartoon true. Hence they are both a type of television or seris or movie. Hence, they are all entertainment of equal rights.

So we are agreed that they are all a kind of fruit? so they are the same beast, but with differerent sub species. Western Animation, genrally, is the sour off kind (there are exceptions). Western movies, tv etc are the wild card that must be exactly ripe before being picked. some great, some crap.

Anime is almost always the glorious divine fruit. of course, there is still some crap, but this is the visual entertainment i choose.

We may disagree on how we judge the fruit...clearly you will not see Anime as the divine fruit. But by your logic it is very little different to the cartoons, movies and tv that gets released in the west, and thus should be treated with the same respect.

Of course, the west can not allow Anime to compete on a level playing field at the Oscars or golden Globes. If they did an Anime would almost certainly win best picture every year .

[Zell's Fists of Fury]

I have reason to believe Batman and Robin were partners in more than just crime fighting.

I fell out of my chair laughing at that.

[Dingo Jellybean]

Well firstly, please drop the bias/insult of *violent* cartoons tag.

Anime is a type of cartoon true. Hence they are both a type of television or seris or movie. Hence, they are all entertainment of equal rights.

I never made that bias towards anime, I was just referrencing to what DMKA called them. Cartoons and anime share the same tag IMO.

So we are agreed that they are all a kind of fruit? so they are the same beast, but with differerent sub species. Western Animation, genrally, is the sour off kind (there are exceptions). Western movies, tv etc are the wild card that must be exactly ripe before being picked. some great, some crap.

Anime is almost always the glorious divine fruit. of course, there is still some crap, but this is the visual entertainment i choose.

I don't know what you mean by "ripe" when it comes to cartoons, but it's like when I grew up on TMNT. I loved the show, thought it was the greatest cartoon ever. I didn't have to wait for it to "ripen", because it was already a show that I was hooked on. When you say anime is the divine fruit, I assume you mean it's more to your liking...not that the actual quality is better or worst than "cartoons." Although if I were to watch "anime" and "cartoons" I can tell the difference, but if a Japanese artist makes "anime" more to the likings of Garfield and an American artist makes a "cartoon" more to the liking of Ronin Warriors...what separates them then?

We may disagree on how we judge the fruit...clearly you will not see Anime as the divine fruit. But by your logic it is very little different to the cartoons, movies and tv that gets released in the west, and thus should be treated with the same respect.

Of course, the west can not allow Anime to compete on a level playing field at the Oscars or golden Globes. If they did an Anime would almost certainly win best picture every year .

I don't see cartoons as a divine fruit either. I treat cartoons these days no more than "anime." Although I do admit to being biased, I still try to keep an open mind as to how anime is different from cartoons so much so that it entitles them to a standard above cartoons. As for Oscars, I don't think anime can compete with them...ever. Mainly because animes can't win best actor or best supporting actresses(yes, I know you were joking on them competing for Oscars).

[aeris2001x2]

Well yes, most Anime would not compete, and it is personal taste.

But the fact that even the best films ever made, imho,(and believe me...i like my films) cannot beat the best Animes, shows that Anime cannot be disregarded as an inferior film making style. And i do geniunly believe that several Anime films were good enough 2 win best picture at the Oscars.

[Dingo Jellybean]

Well yes, most Anime would not compete, and it is personal taste.

But the fact that even the best films ever made, imho,(and believe me...i like my films) cannot beat the best Animes, shows that Anime cannot be disregarded as an inferior film making style. And i do geniunly believe that several Anime films were good enough 2 win best picture at the Oscars.

If CTHD can win, then any animation(cartoon or anime) can win.

But both of us are probably going back and forth with our biases. I mean because older people(like me) generally prefer flesh movies compared to younger people(like you) who prefer animation. It's like me saying basketball is a better sport than soccer. None of it is truly better than the other, but our biased lens makes it so...disregarding it.

I don't hate all anime, I always loved Ronin Warriors(Samurai Yuroiden Troopers), but most the the material on them is enough to make me dislike them a lot(though you can substitute hate). I never said it was ever inferior, it's just that it's too cheesy and too over the top in my opinion.

It's amazing how it seems like 9/10 people who play games vividly are anime fans...then again since these games come from Japan, it shouldn't be a surprise.

[aeris2001x2]

I guess we shall have to utter the usual cliches like *agree to disagree* etc lol .

I dont know...i just feel you can do so much more with Animation and its so much more asthetically appealing to me.

I do like alot of films though. Star Wars trilogy, Lord of the Rings Trilogy A Clockwork Orange, Blade Runner, Shawshank Redemption, Apocalypse Now, Platoon, Gladiator, Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill, Usual Suspects, etc etc. So while i may be a hopeless Anime Fanboy...i do my best not to let it cloud my judgement.

P.S- Any how, how on earth was this Tangent Created?

[Ryth]

Eh it's okay.. I guess... I have more to say but I don't really feel comfortable talking about this subject and what the hell is Yaoi, Ecchi and that U word you said? Yes I've heard of Tentacle Porn and it sounds very disgusting and disturbing.....

[Meat Puppet]

Japanese girls call me hentai.

[Erdrick Holmes]

Hi. I love hentai. My favourite series is F3. I find it to be sophisticated when compaired to regular porn, it actually has (brace yourself) a gripping story.

I'm fond of yuri (girl/girl) hentai over anything else.

[SomethingBig]

What distinguishes animes from cartoons, to me, is that there are many animes that have deep, and thought-provoking stories. I don't think I've seen any cartoons like this in America.

Anyway, we should follow in Joel's footsteps and start talking about hentai again cuz I love hentai.

[MJN SEIFER]

You have very vallied points. But I don't like Hentai. I used when I was 5 but not now.

OT: I never like "Real" porn (Even though Hentai's more "art" than "Porn")

[jrgen]

I used when I was 5 but not now.

:rolleyes2

Anyway, I don't see anything wrong with hentai.
People can get sexually aroused from just fantasizing,
so why not from cartoons?
It doesn't necessary mean that the person in question want to have sex with pictures.
It could also be the particular situation shown that helps stimulating the imagination.
What I can't understand is how voilence of any sort can give someone boner.

[Rye]

Personally, I don't like it. I really don't like any porn.