Hentai question(

[aeris2001x2]

Firstly, if a mod feels this sort of topic can not be discussed in this topic forum, or at all because of under 18 year olds, then i dont mind its removal.

Many of you know i,m a big Anime fan, but i also like some Hentai. I cant say i,d ever buy it ( i have Urotsukidoji, but i define that as Anime 4 reasons i can barely define) but i like sum of it.

I just want to ask other Anime fans their views of Hentai, Yaoi, Ecchi and other such so called *naughty* genres of Anime and Manga.

Personally i see sum of it quite artistic and beautiful. Of course sum is quite disgusting(tentacle, rape etc) but even some of the manga pics and Hentai Anime involving sex can be quite erotic without being obscence.

I know many ppl dispise it 4 soiling the name of anime, sort of the same way all the kiddie anime has, so ignorent ppl just see Anime and Manga as cartoons or porn.

Of course another reason it maybe hated is all the best Anime and video games seem to be turned into Hentai. While its technically brillant... most Anime fans do not want to see Evangelion characters having sex(in that infameous video) or ff characters having sex with each other.

I dont know, i,m just concerned because i,m worried many Anime ppl will assume i,m a perv and not a true anime fan for having an interest in hentai. It also gets annoying when the few times i,m approached by ppl wanting to know about *anime*, they think its hentai and want sum.

What are your views?

[Necronopticous]

I don't really like the idea of it although Mahoromatic wouldn't have been nearly as genius without the nudity.

[Dingo Jellybean]

Hentai is meant for one thing, to appease the minds of perverts. Hence the name Hentai.

I don't care what people do with it and such. I personally don't watch or care for hentai. A more detailed version of my view has been omitted.

Don't worry if people assume that since you like hentai then you're a perv. Most of the people I know assume people who like anime are generally hentai lovers anyways, it's inevitable. Is this assumption right? No, but you have to expect that when you become an anime fan.

Honestly, I hate anime. It annoys me to no end. I don't hate the people who like anime, I just hate the whole aspect of it. People flame me when I just call them cartoons...but in essence, that's what they are. They're just cartoons with a bit more visual expression. I have yet to see people clearly distinguish anime from cartoons. What makes violent/nude cartoons any different from anime? But eh...I never liked the whole anime/manga culture thing. People that I've been around who like anime are completely obsessed with these things that they interupt class just to talk about it. Sometimes I worry about them.

[aeris2001x2]

i guess your right. I just feel most Anime fans wont respect you as a fellow fan, like they assume you only like it 4 the hentai. in reality its just another form of anime, like porn is another form of movies.

[DMKA]

Honestly, I hate anime. It annoys me to no end. I don't hate the people who like anime, I just hate the whole aspect of it. People flame me when I just call them cartoons...but in essence, that's what they are. They're just cartoons with a bit more visual expression. I have yet to see people clearly distinguish anime from cartoons. What makes violent/nude cartoons any different from anime? But eh...I never liked the whole anime/manga culture thing. People that I've been around who like anime are completely obsessed with these things that they interupt class just to talk about it. Sometimes I worry about them.

This is the funniest thing I have ever read on the internet.

[Leeza]

How so, DMKA? Dingo has more or less expressed my views on the subject as well. Except I don't <i>hate</i> it. I just don't really care about it one way or the other.

[Necronopticous]

In a world where people get sexual satisfaction from visuals of everything from people wearing large headgear to people deficating and urinating on each other, just who can say whether someone's sexually fulfilling medium is right or wrong? I'm against anything that causes any form of harm to anyone, but beside that I don't feel that one can say any of these things are "wrong" to enjoy, regardless if one enjoys it themselves or not.

[DMKA]

How so, DMKA? Dingo has more or less expressed my views on the subject as well. Except I don't <i>hate</i> it. I just don't really care about it one way or the other.

Exactly, you don't hate it. I find it funny enough when people just hate things like anime, or baseball, or plad boxers, when there's no real reason or need or anything gained by paying enough attention to these things to hate them.

But, the rest of the post is just funny for too many reasons, which you'd most likely have to be an anime fan to understand. I'll just say that anime is "cartoons", but from Japan. "Anime" is the Japanese term for animated programming. The reason people get pissy or whatever when someone calls anime "cartoons" is because anime has so many things cartoons don't have (which I won't being to preach on here), including the fact that it reaches out to a wider audience and a wider array of situations (I've yet to see a "cartoon" with gay/lesbian romances, for example, which is quite common in anime). Also, when you say "cartoon", it's usually pertaining to animated programming for children, which is a big assumption for all animated programming by many people in this part of the world. Just as there are non-violent, kiddie animes...

Disliking obsessive anime fans is fine. Not caring for it is fine. But hating anime itself? I'm sorry, I just find that too funny to bear.

[Levian]

I agree with Dingo and Leeza.

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The reason people get pissy or whatever when someone calls anime "cartoons" is because anime has so many things cartoons don't have (which I won't being to preach on here), including the fact that it reaches out to a wider audience and a wider array of situations (I've yet to see a "cartoon" with gay/lesbian romances, for example, which is quite common in anime).

Cell phones can have lots of various functions and special effects, like taking pictures, writing notes, change logos, change ringtones, but when it all comes down to it, it's still just a damn phone. My point of view.

Disliking obsessive anime fans is fine. Not caring for it is fine. But hating anime itself? I'm sorry, I just find that too funny to bear.

I don't like it at all. I find them annoying, unrealistic, full of clique's and roles. Everything is over-cute, skinny as a needle, or at least a ninja robot. :/ I just find it annoying, or more specifically, tasteless.

[Necronopticous]

I've yet to see a "cartoon" with gay/lesbian romances

I have reason to believe Batman and Robin were partners in more than just crime fighting.

[aeris2001x2]

I don't like it at all. I find them annoying, unrealistic, full of clique's and roles. Everything is over-cute, skinny as a needle, or at least a ninja robot. :/ I just find it annoying, or more specifically, tasteless.

Reminds me of Hollywood films...

[Levian]

Reminds me of Hollywood films...

Yep, I agree with that. We see the same old stuff in Hollywood films too, except some of them try another formula every now and then, which probably happens in anime too, I wouldn't know, I don't watch it. I usually avoid watching typical hollywood movies that has been done 1000 times before just with another mask.

[Necronopticous]

Anime are, by definition, cartoons.

Cartoon: a film made by photographing a series of cartoon drawings to give the illusion of movement when projected in rapid sequence.

Personally, I see the difference in anime as opposed to American cartoons just the same as I see the difference in Japanese horror films as opposed to American horror films. Either way, to say that anime is not cartoons is incorrect, just as saying that Japanese horror movies are not horror movies.

DMKA is correct though, cartoons in America are typically targeted at children therefore usually containing material that is entertaining to children. In Japan, they are targeted at a much bigger audience, thus containing relative content.

[aeris2001x2]

Technically, yes, Anime are cartoons. I only get annoyed at the negative connotations that arise from Anime being called cartoons.



"Yep, I agree with that. We see the same old stuff in Hollywood films too, except some of them try another formula every now and then, which probably happens in anime too, I wouldn't know, I don't watch it. I usually avoid watching typical hollywood movies that has been done 1000 times before just with another mask."

true, about 10% of hollywood is original and good...while a significantly larger amount of Anime is too.

[Dingo Jellybean]

But, the rest of the post is just funny for too many reasons, which you'd most likely have to be an anime fan to understand. I'll just say that anime is "cartoons", but from Japan. "Anime" is the Japanese term for animated programming.

It's not short for animated programming, it's short for animation. It can refer to Disney movies as well. Anime is just a term used outside of Japan to describe Japanese animation.

The reason people get pissy or whatever when someone calls anime "cartoons" is because anime has so many things cartoons don't have (which I won't being to preach on here), including the fact that it reaches out to a wider audience and a wider array of situations (I've yet to see a "cartoon" with gay/lesbian romances, for example, which is quite common in anime). Also, when you say "cartoon", it's usually pertaining to animated programming for children, which is a big assumption for all animated programming by many people in this part of the world. Just as there are non-violent, kiddie animes...

Disliking obsessive anime fans is fine. Not caring for it is fine. But hating anime itself? I'm sorry, I just find that too funny to bear.

It's like what other people said, a corvette is a car. A camry is a car. Might be different kinds of cars, but they are cars when you get right done to the bone. Same thing with anime. It's pretty much cartoons with different themes. Aliens 3 reaches out to a limited audience, whereas The Grinch That Stole Christmas reaches out to every audience. Does that make Aliens 3 less of a movie because of that? No. I don't think so. Both of them are still movies. Just because it's intended audience is different, doesn't make it anymore special.

I don't like anime for many reasons. It's like someone who hates rap, I don't hold it against them if they do. I don't see how it's so "funny." You're probably seeing through biased eyes since you, by my sense, are clearly an "anime" fan. I'm not saying I'm not biased, but just because I hate something like anime doesn't mean it's irrational. Reasons I hate anime include how many of these animes are sometimes too over the top. Many of them just throw in gut slicing because it seems to be the norm. It's almost like you'd expect senseless violence in these cartoons. Not that I'm against fictional violence, but most Japanese producers just throw them on there because it's the norm. I find a lot of Japanese anime cheesy as well. They're always sword fighting, or fighting with their eyes close as some dramatic music plays in the background. If anything, American cartoons at least have more variety in their shows than Japanese anime's more serious topics.

Just as you say anime appeals to more general people, I know for a fact that there's thousands of animes that appeal to children only, without nudity or violence in Japan. What makes those animes different from cartoons here? What about violent cartoons here compared to your form of anime? Until someone makes a difinitive difference between the two, I'll always refuse to acknowledge the two as completely different.